Now How About This!!
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From: Bentonville, AR
I email mine and call them. Even sat next to my congressman (House of Reps) at a small submarine veterans lunch meeting we invited him to. They know who their masters are. They know how they are told to vote. Most of the kowwtwo to the leadership. Ron Paul of Texas is one of a very few select congressmen that actually votes in a Constitutional manner. He is sadly not my congresscritter.
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From: Quesnel, BC, Canada
the problem isnt people sitting on their butts doing nothing....ok well it is, but the root of the problem is noone knows how to get their points across to their governments. Also noone has faith that they will be adequately dealt with even if they can voice their opinion to someone.
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
Getting the point across is easy.
Vote.
For several years my stratagey has been simple, if they are in office, they don't get my vote.
To many career politicians.
Term limits on congress would be a great start, no more than two terms in office.
Senator Byrd from here in WV is a prime example.
Elected to the Senate in 1958.
50 years in office and 92 years old.
Not what we need.
Vote.
For several years my stratagey has been simple, if they are in office, they don't get my vote.
To many career politicians.
Term limits on congress would be a great start, no more than two terms in office.
Senator Byrd from here in WV is a prime example.
Elected to the Senate in 1958.
50 years in office and 92 years old.
Not what we need.
Post Fiend
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From: Faibanks Ak.
I'd like to see the numbers .
How many in their 80's 70's 60's I'm sure it would be A wake up call.
But we can look forward to a young MESSIA who is not going to use the same old people. This I know for a fact because I personally heard it come out of his own mouth and I wouldn't think any body would vote for a man that might fib a little.
How many in their 80's 70's 60's I'm sure it would be A wake up call.
But we can look forward to a young MESSIA who is not going to use the same old people. This I know for a fact because I personally heard it come out of his own mouth and I wouldn't think any body would vote for a man that might fib a little.
Postmaster
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From: Sweet Home, OR
I email mine and call them. Even sat next to my congressman (House of Reps) at a small submarine veterans lunch meeting we invited him to. They know who their masters are. They know how they are told to vote. Most of the kowwtwo to the leadership. Ron Paul of Texas is one of a very few select congressmen that actually votes in a Constitutional manner. He is sadly not my congresscritter.
That wouldn't have set to well with the establishment.
Never the less it's what we need. The media made him out to be a little nut job so he didn't have a chance.
Everytime I saw him on a talk show though and he explained his plans for REAL change everyone uproariously applauded. It made sense!
Postmaster
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From: Sweetwater Texas
[quote=Dave Sponaugle;6964147
For several years my stratagey has been simple, if they are in office, they don't get my vote.
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That reminds me when a guy was campaigning for a state rep seat, and met my Dad, and my Dad asked him if this was his first time running. The guy said yes, and my Dad promised him a vote saying "I guess its only fair that you get your turn at stealing my money"
For several years my stratagey has been simple, if they are in office, they don't get my vote.
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That reminds me when a guy was campaigning for a state rep seat, and met my Dad, and my Dad asked him if this was his first time running. The guy said yes, and my Dad promised him a vote saying "I guess its only fair that you get your turn at stealing my money"
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
If someone breaks into your house, which would you rather it be?
The guy doing his first B&E or someone that has been at it for 20 or 30 years?
In my opinion I want the newbie, he is going to be so nervous he is going to miss a lot.
The veteran starts with the best stuff and works down till he has it all.
Drawing a line back to the original post about increased fuel taxes on trucks, that increase affects the price of everything, so the increase hits every pocket everywhere at the same time.
Sounds like a veteran thief to me.
The guy doing his first B&E or someone that has been at it for 20 or 30 years?
In my opinion I want the newbie, he is going to be so nervous he is going to miss a lot.
The veteran starts with the best stuff and works down till he has it all.
Drawing a line back to the original post about increased fuel taxes on trucks, that increase affects the price of everything, so the increase hits every pocket everywhere at the same time.
Sounds like a veteran thief to me.
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Post Fiend
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From: Faibanks Ak.
The price increases is what I'm talking about probably 90% of the population doesn't think about this. As a truck owner the fuel tax will not cost me in the long run the cost will be past on and on and on to the consumer. This is where it will be affecting as I am a consumer just like everyone on the planet. Then were also paying more taxes for the consumed goods because of the price increases.
I'm not a numbers guy should be but I'm not what I'd be interested in is I know we used less fuel in the last Quarter = less money for the govt. as the tax is by the gal.
what% less fuel and dollars and how much less money.
I would bet that 1/10 of 1 cent per gal. would bring their end money back to where it was.
I'm not a numbers guy should be but I'm not what I'd be interested in is I know we used less fuel in the last Quarter = less money for the govt. as the tax is by the gal.
what% less fuel and dollars and how much less money.
I would bet that 1/10 of 1 cent per gal. would bring their end money back to where it was.
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From: concord ca
the hammer has returned this is bull crap. there just trying to kick us when were down. thinking were not going noteise .i think if ron paul would have won thing would be diffrent to say the the lease. the lengend chuck norris back ron paul did u know that. iam right now geting a bclass licnes. them a aclass with laws like these are they try to tell the truckers to quit. find another job cause there truck look ugly and smoke to much.
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
Every once in a while I try to imagine what something would cost to buy if their were no taxes paid at any stage from production to consumption.
Something simple like a board.
Land owner paid tax on the ground when he bought it.
Then he paid property tax on the land while it grew.
Income tax on the tree when he sold it.
If the tree is 50 years old, it has been taxed 52 times and is still standing.
Something simple like a board.
Land owner paid tax on the ground when he bought it.
Then he paid property tax on the land while it grew.
Income tax on the tree when he sold it.
If the tree is 50 years old, it has been taxed 52 times and is still standing.
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From: Campbell River, B.C.
Our overall taxation load in canada seems to be comparable to the states though probably a little higher. What I don't understand is why we were paying down debt for the last 15 years, and the states hasn't ballanced the books for decades in good times or bad. A budget is planned for late january that will put us back into debt because of a "stimulus package" to get the economy going again (mainly road and infrastructure spending), but its supposed to be a one time deal. If the price of oil goes back above $50-$60/barrel, canada will already have won half the battle.
The thing that worries me is how much further into debt can the USA go before things start to fall apart?
Where is all that money going if you are already paying so much taxes down there and its still not enough?
The thing that worries me is how much further into debt can the USA go before things start to fall apart?
Where is all that money going if you are already paying so much taxes down there and its still not enough?