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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 06:34 AM
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1965/66 F100/350 A/T Shift Lever Detent

Originally Posted by 1966CCCAMPERSPECIAL
John
I looked at one of my past posts about jumping out of gear. I don't know if I was making my self clear or not.
On a 66 ('61 and later) if you take the shift collar off the column on a 66 and turn it upside down you will see a flat plate, It is the detents for column shift lever. If the shift lever pin drags across the plate from park to reverse long enough it will eat a groove all the way through the plate and will allow the truck to jump out of park into reverse.
The half moon shaped detent (C5TZ7A216A-1965/66 only) has individual shift "gates" the tit on the shift lever fits between.

What happens to it.

On a slope, peeps put the shift lever into Park before applying the emergency brake...so...the truck will inch forward a bit. This locks up the parking pawl inside the transmission.

Now the shift lever has to be yanked out of Park, and sooner or later the 'gate' between Park and Reverse will either wear down to a nub, or snap off.

The parking pawl can also snap in two.
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C5TZ7A216A .. Detent / Obsolete

The following have it NOS:

Griesel Motors Ford in Okarche OK has one / Matlock Ford in Franklin IN has one.

Sorry, I don't have the phone numbers.

That's it...no other Ford dealer, or obsolete parts vendor has any.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Ed, Both Bill and John da picker have books to look at. They should get you straight.


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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by banjopicker66
Ed, John is correct about the shifting linkage, and I forgot that little detail - that isn't so little.
The shifting hardware between the two types is completely different.

'65/'66 - The extension on the steering column has a hole with a rubber grommet. A threaded square nut has a stud that fits onto the extension with a clip.
The nut is threaded onto the top of the shift rod, which drops down to the transmission. (This nut is used to adjust the shifting positions.)
On the transmission, the shift rod clips into a hole on the side-mounted shift lever.

'70 and later (possibly as far back as '68) - The extension on the steering column has a hole with a rubber grommet - this hole is larger than the earlier type.
The shift rod that drops down to the transmission pops into the extension - it does not fit the earlier type.
The bottom of the shift rod is flattened and slotted for a threaded adjuster doohickey. A threaded stud goes through the slot and a nut holds it in place on the shift rod.
The other part of the adjuster doohickey pops into a grommet in the hole on the side-mounted shift lever on the transmission. This hole is not the same size as the earlier one.

None of the parts will interchange. I ended up putting a C-6 and a '70 steering column to make it work correctly.
A/T: At the bottom of the steering column under the hood is the "Transmission Control Selector Lever."

This is where the shift rod from the transmission attaches.

Inside this lever is one bushing and one insulator. These parts come in a kit, and fit all 1965/66 F100/250's. All 1967/79 F100/350's.

The same kit is also used with the two "Manual Control Selector Levers" the 3 speed manual transmission has, and fits 1965/66 F100/250 2WD. All 1967/79 F100/350's.

When the shift lever of a 3 speed manual transmission hangs up between gears, most of the time, the problem is caused by these parts which are either worn or missing.

C5TZ7343A .. A/T or M/T Selector Lever Bushing & Insulator Kit-Consists of two bushings, two insulators.

Still available from Ford.

MSRP: $16.32 / FTEpartsguy.com price: $11.75
 
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by banjopicker66
PS - I am sure Bill will soon replace "doohickey" with the correct term!
You axed for it!

D3TZ7B415A .. Transmission Control Selector Connecting Rod Adjustment STUD (whew!)

5/16" -18 x 1 1/4" long.

Fits: 1968/79 F100/350 C6 / 1969/79 F100/150 C4 / 1973/77 Bronco C4 / 1978/79 Bronco C6 / 1969/74 Econoline C4 / 1975/79 Econoline C6.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Shift Detent 65/66

BillThanks for the part #. Several years ago I tried to find that part with no luck.I finally tripped over one just laying in a late model truck. I called Griesel motors and computer said they had one but they couldn't find it. Called Matlock they had it and are shipping it to me. Part cost $1.64Shipping was more than cost of part
 
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 1966CCCAMPERSPECIAL
Bill Thanks for the part #. Several years ago I tried to find that part with no luck. I finally tripped over one just laying in a late model truck. I called Griesel motors and computer said they had one but they couldn't find it. Called Matlock they had it and are shipping it to me. Part cost $1.64 Shipping was more than cost of part
If you are looking for any literature for your truck like a shop or owners manual, sales brochure, etc., faxonautolit.com is located in Riverside and has an actual store you can visit.

Faxon has the largest collection of Ford literature on the planet.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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I have seen Faxon a couple of times but have never needed pt #s before.

Bill did you ever work for Warren Anderson Ford when it was in Riverside?
 
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Originally Posted by 1966CCCAMPERSPECIAL
Bill
I have seen Faxon a couple of times but have never needed pt #s before.

Bill did you ever work for Warren Anderson Ford when it was in Riverside?
Nope, never worked for Fritts either.

Worked in LA County for 35 years...the closest I got to R'side was Coberly Ford, formerly located at Washington & Figueroa, just south of where Staples Center is today.
 
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