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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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Parking brake warning light

OK, anyone know if that parking brake warning light on a 89 is also a warning light for the actual brake system?

It says BRAKE on the top with a ! and a P underneath it.

I was driving thru some serious snow the other day when the light just came on. This is strange because the parking brake has not worked on this truck since I bought it.

the parking brake pedal is all the way up, and I pulled the release all the way out and tried to get the pedal to travel up more, but it seems like the pedal is all the way up. Light is still on.

So I thought it may indicate a leak in the brake system. I checked the resevior (that damn thing is hard to see thru) and couldnt see any fluid in there. Couldnt see all the way down to the bottom either, because it is one screwed up piece of plastic.

Anyway, topped off with DOT 3 and drove it for a little bit.

I have not seen the level go down, and the brakes dont feel any squishier than normal......but that damn warning light is still on....

sooooooo after all that......

is the light just for the parking brake, or the normal brake system also??

and is there a easy way to see if there is a leak somewhere???

my garage is slopped up with water and slush right now..so its really hard to tell..
 
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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By chance is your abs light on also?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Actually...... yes

I was able to get the parking brake light off though....

I got a little drunk last night and went out there to visit the ol b-co.
pulled the release and held it while moving the parking brake lever up and down about 10 times.

Brake light went out, and took it out for a little drive today.... didnt come back on.

The rear ABS light is on.....has been since i bought the thing, but have not been too concerned about it.... should I be?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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The warning light comes on for several things. Brake fluid low, Brake pressure lost (leak), ABS inop (our '89 did that), etc...

From the sounds of it? Probably got some gunk in the parking brake switch, or it's got some bad contacts and that's its way of telling you it needs to be replaced. For the ABS? There is one sep. ground wire to the neg battery "cluster" of junk going to the neg cable. One of which? Feeds the ABS system. If that wire has broken or has crud in the connector? It will trigger the ABS light. (ours was broken clean off, Just had to rewire it back in place)

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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 01:23 AM
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Thanks Bear!


Yeah, the light came back on, this time screwing around with the parking brake didnt work....

I dont THINK i have a leak or issue with the actual brakes, as I put about 60 miles on and the brakes seem fine. (fluid was a little low - like empty - but I fixed that) and I have not seen the level drop yet.

So, do you think I am right in assuming the brakes are actually OK? Is there another way to be SURE? like i said, its hard to tell if there is a leak as my garage is a mess.


as far as the ABS, yeah, maybe you are right..... I count about three cables wired into that negative connection, and the connection is a little messed up. I plan on replacing both pos an neg due to corrosion, and who knows!!! maybe that will fix it!!!
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by WildPferd
Thanks Bear!


Yeah, the light came back on, this time screwing around with the parking brake didnt work....

I dont THINK i have a leak or issue with the actual brakes, as I put about 60 miles on and the brakes seem fine. (fluid was a little low - like empty - but I fixed that) and I have not seen the level drop yet.

So, do you think I am right in assuming the brakes are actually OK? Is there another way to be SURE? like i said, its hard to tell if there is a leak as my garage is a mess.


as far as the ABS, yeah, maybe you are right..... I count about three cables wired into that negative connection, and the connection is a little messed up. I plan on replacing both pos an neg due to corrosion, and who knows!!! maybe that will fix it!!!
If you can't see a leak? I'd urge you pull the rear drums off and check the wheel cylinders. Plus check the pad remaining on the front brakes. Leaking wheel cylinders can often slowly release brake fluid, which gets burned off while stopping when it makes it to the brake shoes. Most of the time it shows itself as brakes that lock up or grab...But a slow enough leak? Might not put itself on public display. Also I'd suggest checking behind and under the master cylinder. Leaks and problems can often show up as paint damage to the booster just under the master cylinder.

The fact the fluid was almost empty? Either something is well worn...or there is a leak that has not been found yet..

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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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The parking brake warning light switch attaches to the parking brake control.

The low brake fluid warning light (plastic) switch screws into the brake proportioning valve.

This plastic switch develops cracks in the threads. When that occurs, brake fluid seeps out...

...Then the low brake fluid warning light on the dash comes on...and stays on.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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clean contacts for parking brake, and does that year have the sensors on the calipers for low pads? my froends kia has the brake light on cause the sensor is munched... also you say the resevior was dry, did you bleed the brakes?
 
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