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i know imma get flamed for sayin' this but I wanna see Ford build a FULL size off-road rig to the likes that'll put Jeeps and FJ cruisers to shame. One iwth a solid front axle. The works. Stock All terrains in 33's or 35s. Something completely badass. 2 door with removable top, just like the 90s.
Oh, and gotta have the solid front axle or I would have to think long andd hard before i bought it lol
-rockstate
Having owned an 05 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, that would be a tall order. There's no competition to the Jeep Wrangler, in the world, straight off the lot. I'd love to see a new solid front axle Bronco come out that would though. The FJ cruiser doesn't even come close, H3 is a joke. Not a big fan of the Wrangler though, the TJ was the pinnacle of jeeps in history, IMO.
It's just hard to build something to top a design as old as the Jeep, that was excellent to begin with. They've only gotten better, that Rubicon was a beast off the showroom floor. Jeep is already setup with good approach and departure angles, no one else can seem to match it. I've contacted International about bring back the Scout, as they tell me a lot of folks have, I think they could do it.
Ford smoked jeep in the 60 and 70's with the first bronco and it would be easier now that jeep has been chryslerized. The new bronco just needs solid axles, a full frame, removable top and some some good engine choices. The new wrangler is lacking in good engine choices, all you can get is the V-6 mini van engine. The 4.0 I-6 would of been a tall order to compete against because of it's lowend torque and tried and true repitation for long lasting dependability. Ford just needs to make available the ecco-boost 4 cylinder, ecoo-boost V-6, a V-8 and a diesel, also a stout 8.8 rear with a dana 44 in front and a 6-speed manual with an ultra-low manual T-case and lockout's. Jeep has been using that junk dana 35 in the rear since the 80's. One of the first things us wrangler owners do, is swap out the D-35 for a ford 8.8 from a 95-01 ford explorer and even get rear disc brakes in the bargin. Also the bronco needs 3:73 as the standard gear with 4:10's and 4:56's as options. My wrangler has 3:07's, not a good off/road ratio at all. My ****** on the other hand has 5:38's, those gears will allow you to climb trees even with the 60 hp 4 banger. Don't get me wrong, I love jeeps, there my hobby, but I also know where they could stand some improvement. I can't stand the looks of the new wranglers, 06 was the last real wrangler as far as I'm concerned.
I thought that ford made a mistake when they didnt fallow the f250 with the bronco, something like this
that would have sold like hotcakes, and if they put in the 7.3 powerstroke then the damn thing would have gotten 25mpg on top of it... where are thier brains?
I thought that ford made a mistake when they didnt fallow the f250 with the bronco, something like this
that would have sold like hotcakes, and if they put in the 7.3 powerstroke then the damn thing would have gotten 25mpg on top of it... where are thier brains?
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Don't you guys see the resemblance of the concept to the 66-77 bronco? With the huge following and aftermarket that model has generated Ford caught notice and, just like the 2005 Mustang, would head in that direction. With the fuel milage ratings imposed there is noway were getting a 7,000# Bronco. So here is the dream of a guy that has made my own concept Bronco.
Use the exact same wheel base and dimension of the first. Boxed full frame, solid front
and rear axels with manual hubs and 2.73:1 T case, 4.6l (huge aftermarket following, small motor, good torque, easy to supercharge) 6sp manual with 5th and 6th overdrives to allow 4:30 gears standard. Rolling on stock 33s, room for 35s with mild lift.True Tracks front and rear. Suicide rear doors.
Don't you guys see the resemblance of the concept to the 66-77 bronco? With the huge following and aftermarket that model has generated Ford caught notice and, just like the 2005 Mustang, would head in that direction. With the fuel milage ratings imposed there is noway were getting a 7,000# Bronco. So here is the dream of a guy that has made my own concept Bronco.
Use the exact same wheel base and dimension of the first. Boxed full frame, solid front
and rear axels with manual hubs and 2.73:1 T case, 4.6l (huge aftermarket following, small motor, good torque, easy to supercharge) 6sp manual with 5th and 6th overdrives to allow 4:30 gears standard. Rolling on stock 33s, room for 35s with mild lift.True Tracks front and rear. Suicide rear doors.
No really I like your concept, cept I'd add a base model with V6 and 5spd auto for the masses, other than that I think you have a winner of course the top must be removable as well, that should go without saying but I will say it anyways.
I would like to see an F150-based Bronco. I think it would be more practical than a Super Duty-based Bronco. It would be large enough to carry stuff and have great off-road capabilities, but small enough to get good fuel economy. It would also have a wide variety of engines. 4.6L, 5.4L, 6.2L, and hell even the 4.4L diesel.
Ford, however, wants to make it like the original Broncos...tiny. Nothing wrong with the original Broncos, but Ford is saying, "slotted below Escape." I've been in a rental Escape...it was small but comfortable enough. However, smaller than Escape is pushing really small. I would assume it is basically the size of a theoretical 2-door Escape.
I think the bronco needs to be sized like it was previously...hell...make it a expedition with only two doors....and solid axles.....you can even call it the expedition raptor for all i care.....