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If you ask me the best upgrades to start with for these beasts is the K&N Performance Intake Kit..You gain about 10 HP and can increase gas mileage by up to 5MPG. Second I would do a Throttle body spacer which has been shown to add up to 22HP and another 5MPG. These not only add performance but will put more money in your pocket. I would definitely go with an aftermarket exhaust as the Throttle Spacer will get Full potential only with an aftermarket exhaust.
Sorry, I dont even know where to begin tearing your post apart. I'm not trying to be mean, but do some more in depth research on these items and what they really do and DONT do please. The spacer is worthless, the cold air kit may give you slightly better throttle response and a hair more power (most likely not noticable in such a heavy truck, especially with stock exhasut) and NO increase in gas mileage. I would be truely shocked if the spacer and cold air gave even a 5HP gain on these trucks. Its not the main choking point in my opinion, its in the exhaust, and the tune.
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But if some are getting good results and some are not. It then becomes worth finding out on your own. If all you lose is time then you are still as wealthy as you were to begin with!!! Why wouldn't we advise people to try it. Not many people are this strapped for time. The install time on a TBS is about 10 minutes. Skip Tv for a night and you have time to install test and uninstall if you wish!! This is silly in my opinion.
On another note the whistle is cause from the vortex motion of the air passing through. It creates the vortex which concentrates the amount of air passing through. You can purchase the newer models which are silent if you don't like it...however I liked it....it told me it was doing something!!
Lloyd
On another note the whistle is cause from the vortex motion of the air passing through. It creates the vortex which concentrates the amount of air passing through. You can purchase the newer models which are silent if you don't like it...however I liked it....it told me it was doing something!!
Lloyd
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Sorry, I dont even know where to begin tearing your post apart. I'm not trying to be mean, but do some more in depth research on these items and what they really do and DONT do please. The spacer is worthless, the cold air kit may give you slightly better throttle response and a hair more power (most likely not noticable in such a heavy truck, especially with stock exhasut) and NO increase in gas mileage. I would be truely shocked if the spacer and cold air gave even a 5HP gain on these trucks. Its not the main choking point in my opinion, its in the exhaust, and the tune.Like I said I am only offering my opinion..take it or leave it. I will listen just as much as I am talking though..Thanks for the input on my comments also.
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Ever hear air whistle when it wasn't obstructed? As for the "vortex", look at velocities. In a straight tube, velocity reduces near to the tube it gets and increases in the middle. In a vortex, the air in the outer edge has to travel further, this air usually has a low velocity center. Then added to the plenum, I doubt there is any gain in volume, pressure or velocity. Markedly when you figure in Bernoulli decided that air at higher velocities has a lower pressure than low velocity air. While I'd love someone with a great back ground in physics to explain or dis-explain this, but this is what I've noticed.
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Ever hear air whistle when it wasn't obstructed? As for the "vortex", look at velocities. In a straight tube, velocity reduces near to the tube it gets and increases in the middle. In a vortex, the air in the outer edge has to travel further, this air usually has a low velocity center. Then added to the plenum, I doubt there is any gain in volume, pressure or velocity. Markedly when you figure in Bernoulli decided that air at higher velocities has a lower pressure than low velocity air. While I'd love someone with a great back ground in physics to explain or dis-explain this, but this is what I've noticed.
Yeah!! What he said!!
Wolf,
I'm not against trying something new. But, if I'm 99.9% sure it won't work, I skip it and move on. One thing I've learned in my short life, is that most of the time someone else has already tried it and you can save a lot of time (and $) with a little research.
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Well like I said I am new to Ford's but I will put my money on gains in The Small pickups like the Dakota!! I am not only giving my opinion in this truck but the Dyno results. Thanks all!!!
Whatever the case I think we all agree that Exhaust and Engine management is worth the $$$!!!
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Whatever the case I think we all agree that Exhaust and Engine management is worth the $$$!!!
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No, I don't doubt you've seen gains. It's just that the manufacturers "up to" claims leave themselves a lot of wiggle room. If that Dakota got the gains you say, then it was a well worth while investment.
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An up to 10mpg increase!?!? That's fuggin retarded.
Most V10 Excursion don't even GET 10 in the city. You're actually trying to tell us that an intake and a stupid *** spacer could feasibly give a 100% increase in MPG? Please go back to the Dodge forums with the rest of the... aw hell...never mind.
Just go.
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OMG...please stop...stop...STOP!
An up to 10mpg increase!?!? That's fuggin retarded. Most V10 Excursion don't even GET 10 in the city. You're actually trying to tell us that an intake and a stupid *** spacer could feasibly give a 100% increase in MPG?
Please go back to the Dodge forums with the rest of the... aw hell...never mind. Just go.
An up to 10mpg increase!?!? That's fuggin retarded.
Most V10 Excursion don't even GET 10 in the city. You're actually trying to tell us that an intake and a stupid *** spacer could feasibly give a 100% increase in MPG? Please go back to the Dodge forums with the rest of the... aw hell...never mind.
Just go.Why don't you tell him how you really feel!?? ROFL!!
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