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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Used to be everyone carried guns around for protection.
Right.

The bad guys had guns then as well.

The only thing prohibition will change is that the good, law abiding citizens will no longer have weapons to protect themselves.

The bad guys will still have guns.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Was just trying to steer it back On topic. Gun control/prohibition should not be taken lightly.

Innumerable atrocities have been commited against people by their own governments throughout history, coincidentally, right after the citizens were disarmed by gun control/prohibition laws.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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I've just received yet another EBR (Evil Black Rifle) in the mail on Tuesday, and another 1,000 rounds of 7.62x39mm that will be here Tuesday. That should hold me off for a little while. If I had the money, I'd go ahead and grab an AR and about 1500 rounds for it too.

I only need enough to hold off the local PD before SWAT and the National Guard close in on me. They will have to drag me out in a body bag before I give up my guns.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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I was talking to a co-worker this morning about gun sales.

He said that a gunshop near him (N. VA) was PACKED with NEW buyers on Saturday, and that they sold every gun in the store with the exception of a couple of 'high-end' rifles.
Every handgun was sold and customers were wanting to pay 'up front' for them.

One online vendor that I have used, has sold out of just about every 'common' caliber.

Another online vendor has sold out on most of his components.
(I can't keep my Dillon RL-550B running for very long. . . .)
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Why try to link Obama to something like that. Seems kind of negative to me. My question is just what would anyone need several assault weapons for.They arent good hunting guns are they? To me its just more stuff that will be stolen later. I think that if anyone has these types of guns they should be responcible 100% for them. If they are stolen and a crime is done using them the person that had them stolen should be charged also. As far as dealing with cops and law officiers you will need something alot more powerful than guns. Maybe you should make your own home made rocket launchers or bombs if you really want some power. Its really easy to do.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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I"m pushing at about 4000 rounds for my Ak and AR then 1000 for my hand guns
I'm picking up two Saiga semi auto shot guns tomorrow AKA street sweepers.
Better get ready guys there is a Dictator ship on the horizon and it wont be pretty.
He is all ready planing on forced labor across the country.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ship Boy
Why try to link Obama to something like that. Seems kind of negative to me. My question is just what would anyone need several assault weapons for.They arent good hunting guns are they? To me its just more stuff that will be stolen later. I think that if anyone has these types of guns they should be responcible 100% for them. If they are stolen and a crime is done using them the person that had them stolen should be charged also. As far as dealing with cops and law officiers you will need something alot more powerful than guns. Maybe you should make your own home made rocket launchers or bombs if you really want some power. Its really easy to do.
Under that rationale, why do we need any gun? You can buy food at the store.

I like my AK-47 because it's fun to shoot. That's it. It's a terrible home defense weapon because it over penetrates. It could be used as a hunting rifle with a smaller mag, but there are much better guns for that.

I totally disagree with your statement on stolen guns. How about if someone steals your truck and goes on to kill people during a chase, you're responsible?

Any responsible gun owner will take steps to ensure reasonable security for thier firearms, but anything can be stolen.

Mike
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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"Maybe something should take O-man hunting or target shooting to show him want true sporstman and gun enthusiasts are about." --Anyone got Dick Cheney's #?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ship Boy
To me its just more stuff that will be stolen later. I think that if anyone has these types of guns they should be responcible 100% for them. If they are stolen and a crime is done using them the person that had them stolen should be charged also.
Would you like to be 100% responsible for what happened if someone stole your car and got drunk and killed people?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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there is a Dictator ship on the horizon
Is it a Tanker? Or hauling containers?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNomad
I"m pushing at about 4000 rounds for my Ak and AR then 1000 for my hand guns
I'm picking up two Saiga semi auto shot guns tomorrow AKA street sweepers.
Better get ready guys there is a Dictator ship on the horizon and it wont be pretty.
He is all ready planing on forced labor across the country.
Im surprised the moderators have not deleted your very objectionable post. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if law enforsement isnt taking notice of your comments sujesting violance towards our PRESIDENT...better be careful or you and your guns might get taken away....
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BLK94F150
Under that rationale, why do we need any gun? You can buy food at the store.

I like my AK-47 because it's fun to shoot. That's it. It's a terrible home defense weapon because it over penetrates. It could be used as a hunting rifle with a smaller mag, but there are much better guns for that.

I totally disagree with your statement on stolen guns. How about if someone steals your truck and goes on to kill people during a chase, you're responsible?

Any responsible gun owner will take steps to ensure reasonable security for thier firearms, but anything can be stolen.

Mike
let me clarify please. No problem with having guns. I have 5 and only one is for home protection. My issue is the ones that stockade 6 or more assault weapons and much more ammo than they could use up at target practice. Anyone with alot of guns should be required to keep them in a safe . If they dont yes its partly their fault if a thief gets them easily and starts killing people.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ship Boy
let me clarify please. No problem with having guns. I have 5 and only one is for home protection. My issue is the ones that stockade 6 or more assault weapons and much more ammo than they could use up at target practice. Anyone with alot of guns should be required to keep them in a safe . If they dont yes its partly their fault if a thief gets them easily and starts killing people.
So you don't like me because I have several so-called "assault rifles"?

Do you have more than one vehicle? Yes? Well you only need one to get where you're going, am I right? Why do you need more than one?

My point is, it is our RIGHT to own however many guns, of any type we please. I use my AK's for home defense, target practice, and conversation pieces. There are dozens upon dozens of makes and models of them. Each have their +'s and -'s.

And yes, you can hunt with them just fine. Lots of people do (I was looking for a few pictures, but can't find them now).

Guns were given to us to prevent the government from getting too powerful. The citizens were to use their guns to overthrow the government if they became oppressive. Try walking to DC with a loaded firearm now...
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ship Boy
let me clarify please. No problem with having guns. I have 5 and only one is for home protection. My issue is the ones that stockade 6 or more assault weapons and much more ammo than they could use up at target practice. Anyone with alot of guns should be required to keep them in a safe . If they dont yes its partly their fault if a thief gets them easily and starts killing people.
I do keep my guns in a safe--it's called "my house".

The 2nd Amendment isn't necessarily about hunting or personal protection, but those are secondary benefits to the right to bear arms. The primary purpose of the 2nd Amendment is so that the people can protect themselves from a tyrannical government. In this day and age, that wouldn't be extremely difficult if the people were banned from owning multiple weapons with high magazine capacities. Guns for me and my friends...

Jason
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ship Boy
Why try to link Obama to something like that. Seems kind of negative to me. My question is just what would anyone need several assault weapons for.They arent good hunting guns are they? To me its just more stuff that will be stolen later. I think that if anyone has these types of guns they should be responcible 100% for them. If they are stolen and a crime is done using them the person that had them stolen should be charged also. As far as dealing with cops and law officiers you will need something alot more powerful than guns. Maybe you should make your own home made rocket launchers or bombs if you really want some power. Its really easy to do.
O.K. WHY try to link Mr. Obama to something like that. . .
Mr. Obama is on record for stating that he thinks that ALL semi-auto rifles, shotguns and handguns should be banned. (Do a Google search. It WAS on his own website, until right after the election, when it was removed. Google still had it cached a couple of days ago.)
Mr. Obama is verrrrrrrrrrry anti-gun.

Also, as for the definition of "Assault Weapons", they must have:
A 'selector switch' which allows the arm to fire multiple rounds of ammunition with ONE pull of the trigger, and other defining characteristics.
(These arms are already covered under the NFA of 1934! These arms ARE LEGAL to own, BTW! There are procedures/regulations to follow, along with Federal Tax 'Stamps'.)
As for 'being more responsible' (your words, just corrected for spelling). . .
The vast majority of firearms owners ARE responsible.
As for you even suggesting that someone (quoting here)
Maybe you should make your own home made rocket launchers or bombs if you really want some power. Its really easy to do.
THAT is illegal, unless you go through the proper registration process with the ATF for manufacturing a "Destructive Device" or an "AOW" (Any Other Weapon).
(Plus, it sounds like you are the voice of experience of making a destructive device!)

Originally Posted by TheNomad
I"m pushing at about 4000 rounds for my Ak and AR then 1000 for my hand guns
I'm picking up two Saiga semi auto shot guns tomorrow AKA street sweepers.
Better get ready guys there is a Dictator ship on the horizon and it wont be pretty.
He is all ready planing on forced labor across the country.

5,000 rounds (total) is not that much, in all actuality.
I (personally) have no used for a Saiga, but, if you like it. . . enjoy!
As for a "Dictator Ship", nah. However. . . . "Change" is coming!



Originally Posted by Ship Boy
Im surprised the moderators have not deleted your very objectionable post. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if law enforsement isnt taking notice of your comments sujesting violance towards our PRESIDENT...better be careful or you and your guns might get taken away....

Ship Boy,
In what way did 'Nomad suggest violence towards our President - ELECT? (Ummmmmmmmm. . he isn't President, YET!)
Personally, I didn't see ANY suggestion, of any type!

Originally Posted by Ship Boy
let me clarify please. No problem with having guns. I have 5 and only one is for home protection. My issue is the ones that stockade 6 or more assault weapons and much more ammo than they could use up at target practice. Anyone with alot of guns should be required to keep them in a safe . If they dont yes its partly their fault if a thief gets them easily and starts killing people.
O.K. In what way would you 'stockade' 6 or more firearms?
Do you mean 'stockpiling'??? Or, do you want to put firearms in jail?

I believe that I responded, regarding "Assault Weapons", above, so, there is no need to thrash around with that, again.

As for the amount of ammunition that someone has. . .there is NOTHING illegal in owning a 'quanitity' of ammunition. NOTHING!
Don't you purchase something (let's use canned goods or soft drinks as the example) when it is on sale??? Or, if you want a soft drink, do you get in your vehicle and drive "X" miles to the store (and back) just for one "Coca-Cola"?
Or, as another example, do you wait until gasoline is at an all-time high, to buy 5 or 10 gallons to use in your lawnmower(s), or, do you buy a quantity of gasoline when it's cheaper?

Me. . . I reload several calibers, for several firearms. I buy 'in bulk' so that I save money. (And I don't need to justify any of it, BTW!)

Lastly, just because YOU state (quoting again)
Anyone with alot of guns should be required to keep them in a safe.
IF you have a 'lot' of guns. . .secure them how YOU want them secured. I'll secure mine how I see fit.



Well now. . . . I think that about covers what I had to say.
Have a nice day.


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