Notices

torque converter?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 09:50 PM
  #1  
someday's Avatar
someday
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,379
Likes: 9
From: midwest
torque converter?

i cant think anymore after being up over 48 hrs and i want to confirm my engine is seized and its not the starter or trans...the torque converter rotates whenever the motor is running, regardless of gear right? so its not possible to rotate the converter without rotating the engine? if the trans locks up will that lock up the engine?
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:24 PM
  #2  
05chop's Avatar
05chop
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Sorry about your mishap can you tell us what happened?
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:52 PM
  #3  
someday's Avatar
someday
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,379
Likes: 9
From: midwest
i bought a 95 v8 4.6l tbird monday and it ran fine...it had a tick that went away and an engine code P0102 for the MAF...almost made it home and it died...got it to start at wot but it would knock real bad and it back fired...when it backfired the entire plastic air cleaner blew up into pieces...tried to start it today with a new air cleaner and another maf...same problem and only starts at wot and needs gas to stay alive at 1-2 rpms knocking bad...felt like the starter jammed so i cranked the engine by hand and it is getting hung up...it will almost make a full rev but it jams up and i hear it hit metal on the pside...i dont understand how it could have run so well...after more attempts to start it will not crank at all and ive broken the crankshaft bolt
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 02:55 AM
  #4  
stuart1's Avatar
stuart1
Cargo Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,982
Likes: 7
From: Somewhere Saskatchewan
It's seized.
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 07:36 AM
  #5  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
Originally Posted by someday
the torque converter rotates whenever the motor is running, regardless of gear right?
Right.

Originally Posted by someday
so its not possible to rotate the converter without rotating the engine?
Right. You can't rotate the torque converter without rotating the engine.

Originally Posted by someday
if the trans locks up will that lock up the engine?
No, it will not.

You have an engine problem, not a trans problem.
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 08:38 AM
  #6  
Lazy K's Avatar
Lazy K
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,402
Likes: 10
You could have water in one of the cylinders. ( blown head gasket?)
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 09:40 AM
  #7  
someday's Avatar
someday
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,379
Likes: 9
From: midwest
i had all the plugs out...it might have flooded the engine trying to start at wot
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 10:17 AM
  #8  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
You can't flood the engine cranking at WOT. At WOT in crank the PCM turns off all the injectors to clear a flooded engine.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 11:12 AM
  #9  
someday's Avatar
someday
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,379
Likes: 9
From: midwest
what else does the pcm do at wot because that was the only way i could get it to start?

the oil level on the dipstick looks significantly higher and reeks of gas...not milky though i could have sworn the bottle was full not its empty
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 01:34 PM
  #10  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
That is the only special thing that the PCM does at WOT during crank that I know of. Everything is pointing to an overfuel condition. It's getting much more gas than it needs.
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 02:24 PM
  #11  
Lazy K's Avatar
Lazy K
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,402
Likes: 10
Whst the original problem was I don`t know. It sounds now that either you have a valve stuck open (unlikely), or you have a slipped/broken timing belt/chain, or you have a bent/broken con rod.
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 02:41 PM
  #12  
someday's Avatar
someday
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,379
Likes: 9
From: midwest
i think it probably dropped a valve but its toast now and i dont want to waste anymore time or money on this car ive owned for a week and drove less than an hour
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 07:28 PM
  #13  
bashby's Avatar
bashby
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,437
Likes: 4
From: Charles Town, W bygod Va
Lots of gas in oil, locked engine... Sounds like maybe an injector hanging open and filling a cyl or 2 with gas hydr-locking it...did youo say it was still locked with plugs out?
 
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2008 | 12:05 AM
  #14  
someday's Avatar
someday
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,379
Likes: 9
From: midwest
more like fused with all plugs out
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:42 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE