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I was at the Flagler Museum in St Augustine FL several years ago. They have a huge old coin operated band organ that plays one tune over and over.
I listened to the tune, said to the docent lady that was giving the tour..."this tune cannot be a favorite of any true Southerner."
When she asked me why, I said what's that tune's name?
She said.."When We Went Marching Thru Georgia."
I told her that tune (it has words, so it's actually a song) refered to Union General William Tecumseh Sherman's troops marching thru Georgia!
She had no klew.
I listened to the tune, said to the docent lady that was giving the tour..."this tune cannot be a favorite of any true Southerner."
When she asked me why, I said what's that tune's name?
She said.."When We Went Marching Thru Georgia."
I told her that tune (it has words, so it's actually a song) refered to Union General William Tecumseh Sherman's troops marching thru Georgia!
She had no klew.
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All great and interesting "useless" facts for the day! Reading 'trivia' polishes off a long workday nicely! Thanks to all for the great info posted on this thread!
ND ----- a 'cool' Howdy!! How you been doing?
KT
ND ----- a 'cool' Howdy!! How you been doing?
KT
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Where are you in TN? I'm in Nashville. Lot of potential there (but I'm partial to flare-sides!). I think it's cool that it was a marine truck. Love those crew-cab slicks too... most were military. Anyway, I have a regular fender and a notched... trying to decide which to use on my truck. Wondering if that option was indicated on the warranty plate (or the vin)?
Welcome and have fun with your 63... keep us posted with updates/pictures!
Welcome and have fun with your 63... keep us posted with updates/pictures!
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hi desertwest, im in the Tri-Cities in upper east tn. very close to johnson city, and bristol ( bristol motor speedway) im 45 minutes from asheville,nc and about 1 hour from abingdon,va. im gonna get the VIN and run it tomorrow and the warrentee plate. what a great thread this turned out to be, its nice to learn something. sorry if it ended up off topic for the forum but hey its fun!!!!.........
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Shipping a large package today to someone who is guilty of associating with the world's Numero Uno procrastinator.
As if you didn't know that already!
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Off topic is almost ALWAYS fun and informative!
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So ----- my empty package to you helped?
Been busy here myself! Had a bad case of vertigo myself last night ----- a reaction to some cheese or bad tuna! More by phone later ..........
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Among other things, the Barbary Coast pirates captured the USS Pennsylvania, a large US man o' war.
A contingent of US Marines was able to sneak aboard the ship, and set it on fire (that was the order).
It burned to nothing, depriving the pirates of the ship.
The USMC was also involved in other Barbary Coast battles thru roughly 1815.
A contingent of US Marines was able to sneak aboard the ship, and set it on fire (that was the order).
It burned to nothing, depriving the pirates of the ship.
The USMC was also involved in other Barbary Coast battles thru roughly 1815.
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I cheated...sorta...
Frigates: USS Constitution, USS John Adams.
Brigs: USS Syren, USS Argus.
Sloops: USS Nautilus, USS Vixen and USS Enterprise.
Obviously that info didn't come from Conways, as that book only covers 1922 and up.
Info from here: Picture History of the US Navy, by Theodore Roscoe & Fred Freeman, published by Scribners in 1956.
Got this book for my 13th birthday in 1957.
Now have 100's of books on US Naval History. Prolly everything published in the English language on the PH attack, including a rare copy of Adm. Kimmel's Story.
My turn: What was the name of the last WWII ship (that was at PH 7 December 1941) to be torpedoed and sunk?
Bonus, name the 'vessel' that sank it.
It's not the USS Indianapolis, as it wasn't at PH on 7/12/1941.
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Correct, those ships were involved in the First battle of the Barbary Coast (1801) but no Marines were involved in that battle. The final overall outcome was decided at the Battle of Derne (1805) where the ships Nautilus, Argus and Hornet combined with the U.S. Marines and a mixed force of mercenaries.
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Correct, those ships were involved in the First battle of the Barbary Coast (1801) but no Marines were involved in that battle. The final overall outcome was decided at the Battle of Derne (1805) where the ships Nautilus, Argus and Hornet combined with the U.S. Marines and a mixed force of mercenaries.
I edit a lot so you may have missed it.
It's a trick question, but the event did occur.
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The trick question comment gave it away. That would either mean a ship at Pearl and then at the Bikini test site which had to be sunk after the atomic tests, or... a ship sold by the Navy to another country. That would make it a Cruiser or smaller. That would also mean it would have been sold to an emerging Navy such as Greece, Turkey, or Argentina. Since sunk by submarine I eliminated everything below a destroyer that was present. That leaves 6 CL's and 36 DD's. Further perusing the list I was able to eliminate those sunk during the war. History did the rest as I knew that of those countries only Argentina was involved in a shooting naval war.
Given that it was easy as you start with the CL's. The early two would have been scrapped right after the war. That leaves the group from CL-46 to CL-50 and we end up with the USS Phoenix CL-46 (General Belgrano) sunk during the Falklands War by the HMS Conqueror on May 2, 1982. CL-47 also went to Argentina but was srcapped in 1981 before the war. CL-49 went to the Brazilian Navy and is still listed as active!
Given that it was easy as you start with the CL's. The early two would have been scrapped right after the war. That leaves the group from CL-46 to CL-50 and we end up with the USS Phoenix CL-46 (General Belgrano) sunk during the Falklands War by the HMS Conqueror on May 2, 1982. CL-47 also went to Argentina but was srcapped in 1981 before the war. CL-49 went to the Brazilian Navy and is still listed as active!
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The trick question comment gave it away. That would either mean a ship at Pearl and then at the Bikini test site which had to be sunk after the atomic tests, or... a ship sold by the Navy to another country. That would make it a Cruiser or smaller. That would also mean it would have been sold to an emerging Navy such as Greece, Turkey, or Argentina. Since sunk by submarine I eliminated everything below a destroyer that was present. That leaves 6 CL's and 36 DD's. Further perusing the list I was able to eliminate those sunk during the war. History did the rest as I knew that of those countries only Argentina was involved in a shooting naval war.
Given that it was easy as you start with the CL's. The early two would have been scrapped right after the war. That leaves the group from CL-46 to CL-50 and we end up with the USS Phoenix CL-46 (General Belgrano) sunk during the Falklands War by the HMS Conqueror on May 2, 1982. CL-47 also went to Argentina but was srcapped in 1981 before the war. CL-49 went to the Brazilian Navy and is still listed as active!
Given that it was easy as you start with the CL's. The early two would have been scrapped right after the war. That leaves the group from CL-46 to CL-50 and we end up with the USS Phoenix CL-46 (General Belgrano) sunk during the Falklands War by the HMS Conqueror on May 2, 1982. CL-47 also went to Argentina but was srcapped in 1981 before the war. CL-49 went to the Brazilian Navy and is still listed as active!
USS Phoenix (moored in East Loch 7 December 1941) as the General Belgrano, sunk by the HMS Conquerer in the Falklands Islands War of 1981.
I couldn't say Battle of the Falklands, because that refers to Admiral Sir Doveton-Sturdee's Battle Cruisers vs Admiral Graf von Spee's Armoured Cruisers in WWI.
Sturdee won.
Did you know that the German Hipper Class Cruiser Prinz Eugen was at Bikini, and survived the blast?
It was towed to Kwajalein where it later capsized (stern damage).
It's still there today. About 100' of the aft section is out of the water.
Prinz Eugen was the consort of the Bismarck in May 1941, scored the first hit on the HMS Hood. Some Naval historians believe that Prinz Eugen sank the Hood, not the Bismarck.
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