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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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I heard from two different people this weekend that they knew of people with ford vehicles that were stolen/broken into by the key pad on the door...apperantly the scum sucking thieves can pop the key pad up and do something to unlock all the doors in under 30 seconds... with no damage to the door. Is this true?? if so, is there a way to disable the keypad? I know if they really want it there gonna get it , but , this just sounds too easy.. TIA for the input
 
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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I heard from two different people this weekend that they knew of people with ford vehicles that were stolen/broken into by the key pad on the door...apperantly the scum sucking thieves can pop the key pad up and do something to unlock all the doors in under 30 seconds... with no damage to the door. Is this true?? if so, is there a way to disable the keypad? I know if they really want it there gonna get it , but , this just sounds too easy.. TIA for the input
Ford has been putting that keyless entry keypad on their vehicles for as long as I can remember. My mother had a 1982 Continental with it. I've never heard this being done...probably because a slim jim or some other do-hicky would be quicker. I'm not saying it's not true...it just hasn't been discussed here to my knowledge. Moreover, my insurance agent hasn't up'ed my premium because I've got it on my truck.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by broncobilly66
I heard from two different people this weekend that they knew of people with ford vehicles that were stolen/broken into by the key pad on the door...apperantly the scum sucking thieves can pop the key pad up and do something to unlock all the doors in under 30 seconds... with no damage to the door. Is this true?? if so, is there a way to disable the keypad? I know if they really want it there gonna get it , but , this just sounds too easy.. TIA for the input
Yes, it happened to me. Screwdriver under the drivers key pad - pushed in the door metal - got into my truck and took $2300 of stereo and navigation equipment - busted up the trim - total damages $4500 - see link

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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I thought he meant they were doing something to the electrical circuit of the keypad to get in. So, basically it's not specific to the keypad as much as its the handle and trim...being that the keypad is on the handle trim.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Let's face it, if a thief wants into the truck, he'll get in. I had a friend who thought his truck was thief-proof, until they took the rear slider out and gained entry. I do not think any vehicle is thief-proof as long as time and location is on their side...............
 
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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I'd be more worried about the lock cylinder then the keypad on the door handle.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Getting to the lock cylinder on these trucks are very easy. There is a lot of plastic there. My cousins F350 got ransacked the other day and it was not left alone very long. Should be more metal on a truck. Just saying.
 
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After looking at that website and thinking of the holiday season upon us, it made me paranoid thinking about Mall parking lot time. I figure a little extra protection couldn't hurt...and how much could they reasonable charge for the 4 metal shields they show on their website, right? Wrong. $90 for those things...I'll just make sure to take the wife's rig when I go shopping.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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when I had my Lojack installed the installer said all they do is pop the key pad and connect certain wites to unlock the doors, and some with alarms this will also disarm the alarm, If I open my door with the key pad it disarms the alarm.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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when I had my Lojack installed the installer said all they do is pop the key pad and connect certain wites to unlock the doors, and some with alarms this will also disarm the alarm, If I open my door with the key pad it disarms the alarm.

Thats the way I was told they were doing it. Supose to be super easy from what i was told.
 
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The alarm on my truck is not disarmed with the keypad, only with the remote. Giving lock access to disarm it is convenient... and foolish. Whoever installs an alarm that way... needs to go back to alarm installation school!
 
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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the stealer installed it.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wb6anp
when I had my Lojack installed the installer said all they do is pop the key pad and connect certain wires to unlock the doors, and some with alarms this will also disarm the alarm, If I open my door with the key pad it disarms the alarm.
Negative...your installer was trying to make you feel better about your lojack purchase (which he didn't need to do, Lojack is a proven vehicle RECOVERY device and not meant to keep your car from being entered). I was just looking at the RKE system in the service manual and it's a great deal more complicated than connecting some wires at the keypad. If that were the case, it would mean that the keypad generates the unlock pulse to the door actuators. It does not. The Vehicle (or Body) Security Module issues the pulse and only does so after getting the specific code from either the keypad (through a series of voltage regulated pulses) or from the Keyless Entry Receiver after the remote fob transmitter generates a signal(through a series of pulses at varying frequencies).
 
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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how can you even pop the whole keypad? Each of the 5 buttons is totally separate from one another on the outside...
 
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