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and that involves welding what and what together? if i was to do that it would be on the front end only id either leave the rear or put selectable on it...lots of winter hiway driving
if your going to weld it, it would be better to get a spool, alot stronger then welding, and you can kinda get away with it on the back, but if your going to do anything to the front i'd prolly leave it open or get a real loose limited slip unit just so its easy to steer, if your using it for mud only there's not really a lot of difference in traction between the front wheels so a locker is kinda over kill anyways
just my opinion but I would not weld my spider gears (lincoln locker) or install a spool in any rig unless it was strickly a straight line mud racer. This is because wheels turn at different speeds when turning. A locker will rachet when turning a corner making a big difference in tire wear in the rear of a rig and in the front if u run a spool or lincoln locker u will straight up break u-joints (in a rig like mine with ttb) and really makes it hard on tie rods and ball joints no matter what front diff u have. Imagine turning a tight corner while crawling over a rock the outside wheel has 2 travel twice as far as the inside wheel does and the wheels are at different heights with no slip in the front diff u are basicly dragging that outside wheel up and over and around that rock. Personally I will run an aussie locker in the rear diff (I have not done yet) and keep the front open diff, if I had more money I would run a selectable locker in the front like an eaton e-locker with a solid axle swap. Now as far as a limited slip goes it sends power to the wheel that slips the least as compared to an open diff that does the oposite. The clutchs in a limited slip will do just that they will slip around a corner a lot more than a locker would but do not provide 100% positive lock to both wheels like a locker does hence for wheeling I like lockers better.
if your going to weld it, it would be better to get a spool, alot stronger then welding, and you can kinda get away with it on the back, but if your going to do anything to the front i'd prolly leave it open or get a real loose limited slip unit just so its easy to steer, if your using it for mud only there's not really a lot of difference in traction between the front wheels so a locker is kinda over kill anyways
I think the idea of welding is that its free. You don't have to go spend lots of money on anything. I havn't really priced any of it recently but i'm sure cracking out the welder is cheaper than getting a spool.
Aussie lockers. Just like lock rights but much cheaper, limited applications though, just google aussie lockers
I did research aussie lockers b4 deciding 2 buy one. But because I don't know everything I did google aussie lockers, and they make one for every major auto maker and all common axles. As far as disadvantages compared to other non selectable lockers there are not any. Now keep in mind I am no aussie locker salesman and I have no problem with lockright I went with aussie because of price, I mentioned it in my post as an example of what I was going to do not to tell people to buy aussie lockers.
Last edited by shooter123; Oct 7, 2008 at 10:39 PM.
Reason: wanted to add more
oh I didn't realize you mentioned aussies in your post, I need to read more carefully. I just see alot of talk of lock rights and I want people to be aware there are cheaper options out there, haven't tried one myself yet but I will one day
ok well then since i came up with a bad idea what would you recommend, i have a medium hi-way commute so in these canadian winters its get a wee bit slick EH! but i do a lot of mudding and climbing stuff (dirt/snow piles, coulees, rocks, mountains) its a hunting truck so lots of rivers and creeks to cross
just my opinion but I would not weld my spider gears (lincoln locker) or install a spool in any rig unless it was strickly a straight line mud racer. This is because wheels turn at different speeds when turning. A locker will rachet when turning a corner making a big difference in tire wear in the rear of a rig and in the front if u run a spool or lincoln locker u will straight up break u-joints (in a rig like mine with ttb) and really makes it hard on tie rods and ball joints no matter what front diff u have. Imagine turning a tight corner while crawling over a rock the outside wheel has 2 travel twice as far as the inside wheel does and the wheels are at different heights with no slip in the front diff u are basicly dragging that outside wheel up and over and around that rock. Personally I will run an aussie locker in the rear diff (I have not done yet) and keep the front open diff, if I had more money I would run a selectable locker in the front like an eaton e-locker with a solid axle swap. Now as far as a limited slip goes it sends power to the wheel that slips the least as compared to an open diff that does the oposite. The clutchs in a limited slip will do just that they will slip around a corner a lot more than a locker would but do not provide 100% positive lock to both wheels like a locker does hence for wheeling I like lockers better.
you bring good points.... which is why most people run lockers up front, and then weld the rear. It does add to tire wear, but, It is VERY cheap. I wouldnt suggest doing it to a daily driver, especially if you have a long commute. I also wouldnt do it to a ttb axle or a front axle in general.
Originally Posted by Prozon
Who decided posi was a chevy thing?
But yeah. Lockers are the coolio if you have cash.
Posi, Posi-trac are actually chevy terms. Its the chevy version of Limited slip.
They want to give it a fancy name, so people feel special when they get the posi-trac option. Not knowing there getting a regular limited slip diff.
ok well then since i came up with a bad idea what would you recommend, i have a medium hi-way commute so in these canadian winters its get a wee bit slick EH! but i do a lot of mudding and climbing stuff (dirt/snow piles, coulees, rocks, mountains) its a hunting truck so lots of rivers and creeks to cross
I would get a locker for the rear atleast. They really are a big help. I thik you will be surprised and happy with your investment.
36's and a 4" lift are next summers project so SAS will eventually be mandatory and when i do that i might just throw in a selectable locker, axle will be a d40 then later on do a selectable in the ole 8.8 would that be a half baked idea?
I dont know how stout the 8.8 is honestly. You might look into finding a 87 ish 250 they should have a 60 front, and sterling 10.25 rear. The sterling is a pretty beefy axle, you dont have to worry about breaking anything. Might be useful to do a little research, get an old beat up work truck, find one with a 60f and sterling rear and your good to go.
I have been told that the 84-92? front 60's would be a direct bolt in for my truck...
Just to give you an idea.
If you bought the whole truck, and just swapped the running gear, you might be able to re-sell the truck and get back alot of your money, or part and scrap it out, to recover some costs also.
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