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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gpyles01
My suggestion to Ford is they should do more work in the Research and Development Depts. and ask the consumers what they would like to see or would like to have more of in their pick em up trucks. N****N does alot of reaching out to their previous buyers and the public in general to ask what they would like in their trucks.. hence the reason they have 4+ cup holders(between the front 2 seats alone) and tons of overhead compartments for storing who knows what! but they put it there anyways just so we could put **** in it!...simply because the consumers suggested it!
Obviously you don't know much about Ford. They do more consumer research on trucks than Nissan ever has. If Nissan did such a great job at delivering what customers wanted they wouldn't be considering discontinuing the Titan and they wouldn't be the least popular full sized truck in terms of sales.

I think Ford needs to do the same.. why couldn't we have had bed's with pre-sprayed liners with rails that were adjustable for hooking down towstraps almost anywhere..
They offer a contractor option which has rails on the sides and rails that go front to back and side to side that can be adjusted to just about any position, locked down, etc. Plus you can even get all sorts of boxes with access from the side (on the outside of the bed), including tool boxes with slide in drawers, coolers, etc.

and 4+ cupholders upfront..and overhead compartments stretching back almost 4 feet..
My 2006 F150 has 6 cup holders up front. The railport system option has compartments that can be added, removed, replaced with DVD players, iPod systems (and a bunch of other things) in modules from the front all the way to the back of the cab.

N****N had that **** 4 years ago if not more! ahh and that sweet little locking box just behind the rear tires that very nicely holds all sorts of Towing/Hauling Gear! I don't own a N****N but my friend does.. what a nice truck with tons of appealing features!
Not as many options as are available with the F150. Ford had a locking box built into the bed as far back as the late 1960s.

Simply put! I think Ford needs to contact people who have bought a ford in the past X amount of years and ask for them to help make their vehicles better and more appealing for their previous (and hopefully future) buyers!
They do contact people --- many, many people. Apparently though, you don't do your homework like they do, because you wouldn't be posting false information about the trucks if you did.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Not to mention that They sold about 90 Titans last year
 
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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90? Wow! Sales must have been up!
 
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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90? Wow! Sales must have been up!
it was nearly 91 but i ordered a ford instead.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by slowr w/o blowr
Just my 2 cents, but with an intelligent A-6 on the horizon, why would anyone want a straight shift trans? I understand to keep the cost down, but its so much easier changing atf 2x every 100k miles than possibly haveing a slave or master cylinder crapping out. Clutch will more than likely make atleast 100k, but still the technology has come around on these auto's. Now they are as good or better than the sticks we shifted 10 yrs ago.
Well for me $1500 is a big chunk of change for something I don't really want. And when your trying to keep the out the door price of a super duty in the $20's keeping the stick really helps. So there is cost. Durability is a toss up with the newer autos since they can haul more but then again many say they also have higher failure rate though I have not looked at any actual statistics there. But even with the 08's and 09's I see many posts of trannys not shifting right, hunting for gears, etc. And folks using programmers or whatever to change the shift pattern. With a stick it always shifts exactly how I like it. I don't have to be forced to shift the way ford thinks it should or have to spend money on a programmer. Now some of the auto coming out will have manual shift function, but that is still lacking a clutch which I think really gives a whole level of extra control especially doing things off road. And I don't want to give up any control really... I am certain that eventually our cars will be driving us around and not the other way, so I am going to enjoy my manual shift while I can. And to me it just enhances the driving experience, being connected more to the vehicle. And if I do wear out a clutch, slave cylinder, etc, I can fix it myself and even have some friends and family help. With an auto I'd really have no clue, so when it internally grenades I'd figure your looking at several thousand.

Some will say the autos are quicker accelerating, so if your into racing your truck then that's important. The autos have higher tow ratings, and again if that's something that would help you out then great. If you don't like pushing a pedal and moving a shifter than obviously the auto would be the choice. But even for the years I lived in the city, I didn't have any problems with manual even while trying to down a whopper or talk on the ham radio.

I'm getting ready (probably next year) to get the truck that is my goal to last me until retirement (I'm 30 right now btw). Yeah I know that's a bit of a stretch but the point is I plan on driving it to the end and want the best 'built ford tough' that will suit me well and last long with minimal repairs and repairs I can do myself. Right now that's probably going to be an '09 F250 4x4 with a 6 speed manual, manual shift transfer case, manual lock out hubs, solid axles, etc. And since all those are standard issue, I can build the SD for cheaper than the 150 and get additional rebates (well right now there is at least) on the SD to boot. I know it might not be the popular choice, but its my [almost] ideal truck.
 
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