Moe,

No, you asked a simple and reasonable question. I let present-day personal and business stresses affect my judgement and my response was totally inappropriate and for that I apologize not only to you but all the fine folks on this board.

My behavior is not representative of nor up to the standard of the great folks here. I hope you'll feel free to ask more questions and to participate as there's a lot of great knowledge here.

Your V10 Excursion is a real beast and a great vehicle and I'm sure you'll come to be as passionate about it as we have ours!

 

AMEN

 

and to answer your question I would say yes because the the whole front of the Xs are the same as the 99-04 SDs

 

Excursions are built on the Super Duty 3/4 Platforn period.....

Towing capacity up to 11000 pounds
8 Lug wheels
Excursions are Super Duty Trucks
Excursions use Super Duty Grills

I'm not going to drag this on:
Just go to Cars.com Look under used cars choose Excursion look at one for sale, click on specifications and decide for yourself by Ford Motor Co.'s FACTORY SPEC's if its a 3/4 truck, car, van or what. All I can say is if you buy parts you have to get Super Duty parts which are 3/4 ton truck parts.

As for Surburbans I think they are nice easier to park because they are smaller, but if you want THE KING OF THE SUV'S then you have no choice but to get the EXCURSION.
Ford people like Fords
Chevy people like Chevys
Hummer people like Hummers

I have an Excursion and a Hummer, I like them both, if I go shopping I use the Hummer, if I go cruiseing or on a trip I use the Excursion because it is the King of all SUV's.






03 Excursion Limited 4x4 415 C.I V-10 310 H.P Stock
07 Hummer it is what it is
79 GMC 1500 P.U. it has grown old with me.
91 Ford SHO Plus Yamaha V-6 5 speed

 

Well, maybe there are a few exceptions! I still have the '65 Chevy that's been in the family since it was new and I previously owned five Suburbans, the last two being 2500's. My father raised me to be a Chevy man.

However, once you've driven a nice big 'ol Excursion . . . . . . . .

 

Ford Ranger 1/4 ton = Ford Explorer hence 1/4 ton
Ford F-150 1/2 ton = Ford Expedition hence 1/2 ton
Ford F-250 3/4 ton = Ford Excursion hence 3/4 ton

Looks good to me. No discussion needed. heheheheh

 

Now I am confused. I did not know that Ford made its 3/4 ton trucks with full floating rear axles. My Suburban was a 2500 series 4wd - it most certainly did NOT have a full floating rear. It was an older one; one of the last with the solid front axle - '91. When did the Subs. start getting full floating rear axles ?

I would have to admit I would be impressed if Ford would bother putting full floating rear axles on 3/4 ton trucks - that is an extra quality touch I would not expect from cheap $($#@*#'s like Ford. And again, would like to know when GMC went to full floating axles on Suburban 2500 series. Cant imagine why they'd do that, when for so many many years, actually GENERATIONS, they had ordinary automotive-type rear axles that worked well for the application.

And I have to agree with the guys who say the Excursion is not a truck. To me (and to the Vehicle Codes of most every state in the Union) is a vehicle "designed primarily for the transport of cargo". Thus a pick-up is a "truck". Our EX's, like any traditional station wagon, are built primarily to carry PASSENGERS (that is why they put seats & side windows in them ..!) If they didn't, I guess the term "panel truck" would work..?

Not sure I can come to terms with the phrase " S U V" . Not sure what it means ' Stupid Urban VegetableBrain"...? At least that is my impression of some of the people who buy them.... !

My "hunch" is that most of you bought the EX for a legit reason - you needed its towing capacity combined with its seating capacity.

Which reminds me - how much more does an EXCURSION weigh over a 3/4 ton Suburban? Isn't it over half a TON more ? Maybe that exlains why every 3/ton Suburban I have ever seen did NOT have a full floating rear axle, and every 4wd EXCURSION I have ever seen DOES have that extra load capacity ? ? ?

Now - why are we wasting time on this trivia..when we could be talking about way-too-short mini skirts ?

 

OK.........here's your sign ......HE IS RIGHT .The ring gear is a 10.5 inch [ could be a 10.25 also] , so that IS the gear SIZE.the gear RATIO is measured by 3.73:1 or 4.10:1 , so please before you correct someone , get your facts straight, dont be getting mad either,........... now you know.

 

SUV means- Sport Utility Vehicle

A few spec's on a 03 V-10 4x4 EXCURSION LIMITED (STANDARD)
Axels
(a) Rigid rear axel
(b) Rear leaf suspension
(c) Front axel 5200 pounds
(d) Rear axel 7000 pounds
(e) Front Springs 3800 pounds
(f) Rear springs 5240
(g) GVWR 8900
(H) Towing 11,000 pounds

PAYLOAD
(a) 1710 pounds SOUNDS LIKE A TRUCK TO ME AND A 3/4 TON

Curb weight
(a) 7190 pounds

Did it ever occur to you why the rear seat is removeable in an X?
Does a Semi-Truck haul things or does it pull things like trailers?

As for Suburbans I have oftened wondered why they offered 4 WHEEL STEERING.......................................... ..............................................

 

I can confidently say I doubt there is anyone on this baod who does not agree a full floating axle is a superior axle for heavy duty use.


On another note I *STILL* have NO clue if we have a 10.25 rear axle odr 10.5, how can you tell what you have? What vehicles got one or the other? I dont know why this confuses me so much, but for some reason I can not find a clear answer anywhere.

 

Wow! Seems like someone has a chip the size of a....SuperDuty truck....on his shoulder!



I'm kidding, i'm kidding!

The Excursion may not be a SuperDuty truck, but because it was produced on the SuperDuty platform, its easy to associate the Ex with the term "SuperDuty", which has evolved to also include the Excursion because it is a SuperDuty rig. Sure, it's not a truck, but it's still a SuperDuty.

Stewart

 

Well on the driver door down low there is a placard. It has codes on it . One says axle. Underneath that it will give for instance a code like mine. It says c1 which stands for 10.5" ring gear 3.73 gear ratio and limited slip rear diff.

Also isn't a F-250 a 3/4 ton truck? and a F350 a one ton? The ex is listed as a F-250.
I have a Ford shop manual that lists these vehicle's: F-250 SUPER DUTY all the way to the F550- and the Excursion. The Excursion is in the ford shop manual listed under super duty.

 

The one and only Super Duty SUV!

 

WHJCO, Not a problem. Like all forums people have there say. I just had a simple question, Thats all . I think I know a truck compared to an SUV also. I've only worked on heavy equip trucks and light vehicles for 35 years, and I am still working on them. I run an entire fleet of vehicles and police cars, mostly crown vics with the 5.4. I personally haven't owned a ford truck since my very first new truck back in 1976. A 1976 ford F-100 stepside 4 speed 360 cu in 4x4. I wish I still had it. Anyway I do like the site and probably will have more questions about the Excursion, because sometimes forums like these can save you time trouble shooting something. Some times the info is wrong. Some people think they no more than an ASE Master tech. I get it all the time. But I do have fun in my chosen profession, and my job satisfaction comes from making things work right. My new to me Excursion has lots of little things on it that needs attention. Hey it keeps me in my shop at night and not watching T.V.

Thanks to all for their advice, and future forums

T. Moe

 

Pete,

As to your first sentence, did you mean to say "Chevrolet" instead of "Ford"?

I had a '91 2500 Suburban 2wd and it did not have a floating axle in the rear. It had a 350 in it and wasn't up to the job of towing the car trailer and it was also possessed with electrical gremlins, so I sold it and bought a '92 2500 4wd with a 454 and that one had a floating axle in it.

I do like the idea of a floating axle and it will sure handle the weight better. As to the original question, the Excursion is essentially a Super Duty F250 standard cab long bed pickup with an SUV body and a softened suspension.

The suspension on our Excursion is stock. We recently pulled our 9500# 24' enclosed car trailer on a 1500 mile round trip to La Crosse, WI. We drove back in the middle of the remants of Hurricane Ike in the flat plains regions of Illinois and Indiana. We had heavy rain during the first 1/3 of the trip and had strong buffeting winds for most of the trip home. I never did have any problems with sway or body roll in the Excursion and always felt completely under control, although I did notice an increase in fuel consumption from fighting the winds. The Excursion has far better towing and braking capacity than any of my Suburbans I owned.