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My father in law want's to buy a truck. I have a 7.3, and have no knowledge on the 6.0. Can anyone share some info on the 6.0? Are there alot of problems he should know about before he gets one? Thanks for the help.
You will read of problems here because this is where people come to seek help for their problems. With that being said, the early 6.0's (03-04) had some issues that had to be worked out. Ford was the first to play the emissions game, so that also means they were the first with casualties. Even though the early 6.0's had more issues, that doesnt mean that there arent many great ones out there. Just have to do your homework with an oasis report on any 6.0L you buy. The 05-07's were less problematic and Ford made a better all around truck when it came to the redesign in 05. If money is able, and in my opinion, get as close to an 07 as possible, research the maintenance procedures and time tables, and you will have a great truck!
Get the VIN and ask someone here to run it to check what was done to it under warranty. If a lot of engine-related stuff comes up then keep looking.
My 6.0 has been great - tell him to buy mine and I'll get a 6.4
My father in law want's to buy a truck. I have a 7.3, and have no knowledge on the 6.0. Can anyone share some info on the 6.0? Are there alot of problems he should know about before he gets one? Thanks for the help.
I will very respectfully suggest that he also purchases a 7.3 too! The 6.0 is a great engine when it's running properly. My experience is that the 6.0 has lots of problems that needs several mods to correct the issues. Just do some reading around here and you will see some of the issues...... TTY head bolts, EGR valves, EBP sensor failures, blowing off boost tubes etc...... THe other reason I would suggest to buy a 7.3 is that Ford has many great diesel techs but they do seem hard to find. With the 6.0 you need a very good tech to troubleshoot problems...
If I could find him a 7.3 without a ton of miles on it I would. He is getting pickey in his old age. Buying a used vehicle can have problems no matter what you buy. I will tell him to keep his eyes open and wait until he finds the right truck. Thanks to his wife, who just totaled his tundra, he is now looking for a ford diesel.
hey im in the same situation hes i. My father is looking at a 6.0 and seems like a good truck only has 46,000. not even broke in yet but still worried beause of all the hear say about it went downhill from the 7.3 to the 6.0.We know everything that has been said here about the two but we think this one might be a winner. so if someone here could run us a VIN check with under warranty for us we would appreciate it. Its a 04 f-350 vin # 1FTSW31P94EC53637. thanks
I was concerned about the same thing. At first I thought I made a mistake by buying an '06 F350 with the 6.0. Right after the first 1000 miles I had a check engine light come on and an oil leak. It was fixed under warranty and the truck has been great since. It is completely stock and still pulls considerably better than the modified 7.3 PSD I had ever did. For my needs, I don't see me ever bothering to modify the 6.0 I have. As I said, it runs far better than the 7.3 PSD ever did even after considerable mods but not as strong as an old 12v Cummins I had that was also heavily modified. I personally found that most of the 7.3 trucks I looked at were mostly worn out. With today's economy and the very low prices on diesel pickups, I got my '06 F350 and bought the 7 year 200k warranty on it for less than I would have spent for an '02 7.3 with twice the miles on it and no warranty on it about a year ago. Good luck!
I just purchased an 06 F350 FX4 DRW a couple of weeks ago with only 39K on
it. I checked the OASIS report(a great service provided by guys here). One
thing on the 06 is after Jan 11, 06 all new trucks came with the new style 6.0l
motor that is what the 6.4 is based on. I think they call i the "communized"
motor. That should all be available on either the Oasis report or a CarFax
report. I got both so I could verify the service that was reported. If you do
your homework and use the info here on this site I am sure you will find a nice
6.0l for your father.
have him get the oaisis report done before he gets any truck. if he finds a good 6.0l under 5yrs/100k miles the engine will be covered under warranty. also let him know that you can buy extended warranties that cover the engine for 7yrs/200k miles.
you probably know but both these trucks are expensive to repair, example things like turbos, injectors, trannys can go out over time.
if he finds a 7.3 he likes just make sure its well maintained and have money saved for a rebuilt tranny/or better yet BTS tranny and it would be a strong truck.
i loved my '99 7.3l. never had one problem except the CPS and fuel filter bowl leaked after my it's first tank of ULSD and it was modded with a Banks System and had 13" suspension lift on 40's. tranny was fully built w/ Banks Torque Converter and never slipped.
you can find good diesel trucks for sale right now for super cheap right now so it's for sure a buyers market. IMO people are selling really good trucks not because the want to but because the have too.
I]One thing on the 06 is after Jan 11, 06 all new trucks came with the new style 6.0l motor that is what the 6.4 is based on. I think they call i the "communized" motor.
Gene
kinda but not really. i'm sure some else will post up exactly what changed but you would be surprised how little.
(not trying to pick on the new guy) welcome to FTE Gene
kinda but not really. i'm sure some else will post up exactly what changed but you would be surprised how little.
(not trying to pick on the new guy) welcome to FTE Gene
Thanks Adam. I got the above information from reliable sources here at FTE. I have also verified that my motor is a communized motor by both Ford and my diesel mechanic.
So what was changed? Curious minds would like to know..
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Effective Date: Ford Production Assembly Plants - January 11, 2006
Kentucky Truck Plant (Super Duty) & Lorraine Assembly Plant (Econoline)
Description
Changes are being made to the 6.0L diesel cylinder head, head gasket, crankcase block, rocker
arm carrier and injector hold down clamps for the 2006 Super Duty and Econoline Program. The
action is taking place to facilitate/communize the International manufacturing process for the
upcoming 6.4L program. The 2006 6.0L used in Ford vehicles after January 11, 2006 are being
referred to as "Commonization Engines".
Part number details are provided on a separate excel spreadsheet. '>Subject: 2006 6.0L Diesel Power Stroke Cylinder Head Commonization
Effective Date: Ford Production Assembly Plants - January 11, 2006
Kentucky Truck Plant (Super Duty) & Lorraine Assembly Plant (Econoline)
Description
Changes are being made to the 6.0L diesel cylinder head, head gasket, crankcase block, rocker
arm carrier and injector hold down clamps for the 2006 Super Duty and Econoline Program. The
action is taking place to facilitate/communize the International manufacturing process for the
upcoming 6.4L program. The 2006 6.0L used in Ford vehicles after January 11, 2006 are being
referred to as "Commonization Engines".
Part number details are provided on a separate excel spreadsheet. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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1. Carrier boss bolt holes M10 x 1.5
2. Injector clamp bolt holes (relocated)
The new cylinder heads have several casting changes including a slight injector clamp bolt hole
relocation (2, figure 1) and the carrier boss bolt hole size and location changes (1, figure 1). New
cylinder heads also use 32 mm cup plugs replacing the old 28 mm cup plugs.
The cylinder head gasket is also new to accommodate the new 20mm cylinder head location
dowels. Pre commonization head use 18mm dowels
Note: At this time the new cylinder head assembly is not interchangeable with the previously level
head. ">Figure 1 - New cylinder head
1. Carrier boss bolt holes M10 x 1.5
2. Injector clamp bolt holes (relocated)
The new cylinder heads have several casting changes including a slight injector clamp bolt hole
relocation (2, figure 1) and the carrier boss bolt hole size and location changes (1, figure 1). New
cylinder heads also use 32 mm cup plugs replacing the old 28 mm cup plugs.
The cylinder head gasket is also new to accommodate the new 20mm cylinder head location
dowels. Pre commonization head use 18mm dowels
Note: At this time the new cylinder head assembly is not interchangeable with the previously level
head. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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