If you get that message, just hold the power button, when the sigint is received it will destage the drive cache and shutdown - the install is not complete until the new image is built and the active pointers are switched (which is only on the critical installs and a reboot is required - microsofts live update code is a bit primitive)

for grins, I have been running 'bigdog' (an HP ze1230 with a lot of memory and a lot of hard drive) on ubuntu 8.4 now and except for wine not working as Id like, its flawless. If the semi-literate PC folks ever catch on, MS is in trouble (a co worker and I were discussing this am that we'd love to learn linux internals to the degree that we know our own OS, but our age and other interests prevent this - it takes about 10 years or so to become literate in the guts of an OS)

dont run macs (sorry iFans) but if you are not editing images for youtube, mac and OS-X are fairly useless to get any work done

 

Did you lose the address bar at the bottom?
Several weeks ago, I installed SP3 and no address bar.
Completly unacceptable situation and the only way to get it back was to uninstall SP3.
If they have rectified the situation, I will re-install.

 

That's just plain incorrect. The software world (which I work in) simply doesn't work that way. Beta software has known bugs, often serious. Even formal software releases have hundreds, if not thousands, of known bugs. It's simply not possible to fix every bug in a complex software product AND add new features to keep up with your competition.

I guess we can add computers to the list of things you like to talk about but don't really know anything about.

 

andy - careful. The shop is just one of my 3 businesses that happen to make money. My business that makes the gobs of money deals with these 'computers'. I am a degreed, internal systems guy on the fastest, most robust OS on the planet and only hold a number of patents on some of the internal 'computer' thingies..

suffice to say, its not folly that if I tell you something about about one of these 'computers', tatoo it on your behind because it is gospel from the mount (and likely covered under one of the many publications I have done over the last 21 years)

but re-iterating and expanding, not to specifically pick on Mac, Mac 'computers' had a heyday doing desktop publishing and they make editing/creating the aforementioned youtube videos a snap. Aside from that they make lousy development platforms and worse servers. (its not entirely the processors fault, apple stuck a purty good chip in a lousy architecture and added a crappy OS to it. now it has a pretty good chip still, a little better architecture, but same crappy OS and it still cant do IO to save its life - which extends to all PCs). Plus they cost a fortune and all the good toys are proprietary.

At any rate, unless your home machine is being used as a windows based PSP/Wii, use linux. Ubuntu distributions (use updates similar to Debian) are far easier and transparent to update than MS. And more frequently, the user community is fixing bugs left and right. IF they ever get a strong ACPI interface for the hardware sensors, melted laptops will be a thing of the past.

* In all fairness to MS the Govt version of XP Pro aint bad, but its annual license costs more than your home machine, not to mention, you cant buy it without a Fed-ID.

 

pick one of the PCs, download the ubuntu distribution, fire up the install. be smiling in the AM

 

Arrogant AND dumb. Quite a combination you've got going there.

Sorry, but you don't impress me one bit. You've shown time and time again that you talk big but don't have the goods to back it up. I call BS on all this. You probably work at subway making footlong chicken sandwiches.

 

Arrogant yes - specially about this. Dumb? time will tell. you called BS, so, in the real world you now get to point out the part that was wrong.

*Edited to add: I was not trying to impress you. In fact my post was not addressed to you by name or in spirit. But you addressed me. Stalker.*

(should we hold our breath for a long time or go back to our other work? Based on the fact that if you read all posts where you seem to stalk me on the board 'calling BS', you never actually DO point out an error)

MMMMM...footlong chicken sandwiches (gulp gulp gulp snarf snarf)

 

thats my favorite subway sub,roasted chicken breast

 

I can think of a lot of jobs that I am glad you don't do .

Unfortunately, you are correct about software releases. Now I'll go back to what I was doing .

 

I've not tried IE8 as I refuse to use the MS (read massive ****) browsers unless absolutely required to do so. I can say this for vista as I've used it for OVER a year now, I've reinstalled ONCE due to a HD upgrade. It's the FASTEST most reliable version of windows I've ever used. XP doesn't hold a candle to it. This is running on a single processor machine.

 

> It's simply not possible to fix every bug in a complex software product
> AND add new features to keep up with your competition.

I agree, especially anything for a MS platform written in C- -

 

You got lucky then. I have vista that came with my laptop and it is a power hog. With vista I get 2 hours of battery time while with XP I get 5 hours. I got tired of waiting for everything to load and after a year I finally put XP on my laptop and haven't looked back.

If Macs were more builder friendly and a bit cheaper I would look into one. But they are not so I will stick with my own.

 

BTW SP1 did fix some of the problems but I am still fed up with Vista

 

another person BEGGIN to run linux.....80% less overhead.

I turned on various libsensors and I watch cpu scaling. with linux I can sit at 500mhz, jumping to 800, only rarely going to the full 1.3g (this is an older hp with an AMD)

with windows - scaled up full time. just to browse.

 

If you think that even 10% of the people reading this on a truck forum have a clue what you're talking about you're very mistaken. It's cool that you think you're some kinda guru or whatever but I promise you're not impressing anyone.

Linux is great but the fact is that it doesn't suit the needs of the vast majority of computer users who only care about IE, the occasional game, and maybe MS word.