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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Engine Rebuild Preliminary Questions

I am thinking about getting the kit from PS Shop click here to rebuild my motor. I have never done something like this, but I would like to learn and since I am really low on money right now, I think this would benefit me the most. I need new pistons since a few of mine are missing parts.

What should I check when the block is disassembled in regards to the block and heads? The motor was dusted, but it never gave me cold starting problems or excessive smoke. Also has anyone used this kit before? I am not looking to build major HP out of this motor, just have stock performance back. My ultimate goals are to have just a reliable DD/tow rig and pay the truck off.

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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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That looks like everything you need to have to rebuild the bottom end only. If you want to do the heads then it would need to have the valves included.
Also there is no camshaft or lifters in the picture.
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I'm still puzzled why the recording you made sounded so much like valve train problems.
The frequency of the tapping noise was half the crankshaft speed which points directly to valve train because the cam is geared exactly 1/2 speed to crankshaft speed.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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I was having some internet issues at that time, so I never heard the video, but after Dan's comments, I thought I remembered reading that your new lifters were too short?

Sorry for not paying attention, but did this ever get figured out, or did you move on after you discovered the modern art sculpture in the pan?

Edit: Of course the internet excuse isn't much. I've had to ask Dan to post different recordings before because either I have bad ears or bad speakers on the computer (both the old computer and this new one too).
 
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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I have not gotten the cam out to inspect for wear yet, nor can I see anything yet for cam wear. The more I think about it, I am thinking about buying a long block, then the work I need to do is already done. Also the price is the same as the link jason posted, except it is shipped and also has heads, though they want my core.I wont have to worry about having to measure everything and hoping. I honestly have not found the a problem yet, in terms of why the problem I have found made that sound. Maybe its deeper, hopefully today ill be farther into this motor to see.

The original post chris...https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-included.html
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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I'm surprised that so many pushrods are sloppy like that unless you have accidentally gotten a set that is too short.
Did you, by chance, compare the length of the new ones to the old?
There isn't much room for error.
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No I did not check the length of the push-rods. I assumed they were right from fords, but Im starting to doubt fords since the noise didn't change even after I put the new push rods in. It will be a couple days until I can get back to work on it, I am going to check then.
This is the part I was remembering. I was just hoping you didn't abandon this check when you saw the broken parts in the pan. I tried listening to the video but every time you moved the camera I kept hearing different things. I have to really focus to pick up on things in a recording, and I can't imagine a single thing that I could hear that Dan wouldn't have picked up on immediately.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Me and Kris just rebuilt my motor..we got all the internals block oil cooler heads...the heads were reusable cores...the block, internals and oil cooler was about 3000 shipped. plus we added a bunch of other go fast parts!
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Cool Avatar Kenny.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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That is exactly what I was thinking.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Well I think god was looking after me well this week. My buddies dad just got a wrecked 2000 f-350 motor is good, I am probably gonna get it for a cheap deal. Its got 150K on it. Going to start it tomorrow to be sure it runs good. Lets see what happens, but this may be my best bet for now.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Well I think god was looking after me well this week. My buddies dad just got a wrecked 2000 f-350 motor is good, I am probably gonna get it for a cheap deal. Its got 150K on it. Going to start it tomorrow to be sure it runs good. Lets see what happens, but this may be my best bet for now.
Go buy a lotto ticket quick. Good luck usually doesn't stick around too long.

Let us know how it looks.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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You get the new motor?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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That was me, i think. In one of those pics i was the one power braking it, as he didnt have the ***** off the bat, so once he saw how cool it was, then he decided to do it again himself.

Anyway, you will need a piston ring compressor to get the rings shrunk enough to go into the bores, im sure you already knew that. I have the steel collared one that you tighten or loosen around the rings, instead of a tapered one that fits only one size. The piston is between 4.000 and 4.250 inches. Make sure you have all the torque specs, and a very broad understanding on how everything in an engine works. Get the cam lined up correctly, and make sure all the vital things are in place. I have no clue how competent you are with things like this, however since you pulled your engine and tore it apart, im sure you have the knowledge. Find a good machine shop that focuses on racing (that way you know they do engines, and their work is good), and have them check the block, bore it, hone it, deck the fire decks, and install the new cam bearings. (need a special puck). Take them the torn down, bare heads, have them magnaflux them to check for cracks. We took Kenny's heads for resurfacing and found out that BOTH had SEVERAL cracks in the fire deck usually between the intake and exhaust valves. It would be wise to have them clean up the valve seats and the valves as well, do a quick valve job. If you can swing it, it would be wise to do headstuds now unless you KNOW you never will get that far into mods. You can say it now but you'll get there one day, and wish you had done it. Even if you gotta borrow a grand from parents or relatives, it will pay off in the end. Let me know if you need any help or moral support, ive done this recently myself.
 
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