Hello I was wondering what motor mounts and headers I would need to put a 460 in my 2wd 65 swb truck. I have a set of hooker super comp made for a 67-77 f250 4wd according to summit racing. Did not know if these would work or not.

 

The neat thing about '65 and later trucks is that the frame and dimensions for the front of truck is nearly identical; the dimensions from the rear of the cab to the front of the frame are identical.
The holes for the perches for the factory 3-piece 460 truck perches from a '73 - '79 are already drilled in your frame. You can use the complete truck setup and it will be - and look factory.
Same with the headers - use 4x2 headers, though, to make sure they will fit correctly. Headers for a '79 or earlier 460 in a F-150/250 will correctly fit into a 4x2 '65 - '79 truck.
Here is my '66 F-200 460 setup:

‘86 460 bored 60 over with stock '86 heads - no porting
'77 F-250 460 engine perches and mounts
'69 straight up cam gears, Cloyes double roller with RV type cam
Edelbrock Performer (not RPM) intake and 1470 750 CFM carb on a 1" phenolic spacer
'76 Duraspark II ignition
Stock aftermarket manifolds with a 2 1/2 inch dual exhaust (plain mufflers); copper gaskets
'93 serpentine belt brackets and pulleys
'78 power steering pump, hoses
with ’93 PS pulley
'76 power steering box
’76 power steering pitman arm
’92 power steering cooler, mounted in the frame
'70 steering column
'66 radiator (re-cored)
'66 alternator
with '93 serpentine pulley and fan
'86 water pump
'86 fan clutch with '77 7-blade fan
'83 C-6 from an '83 F-350 fifth wheeler, with '77 C-6 linkage (internal shift rod and kickdown)
2.75 rear end
'83 stock rear sump oil pan, with stock oil pump, pickup tube and dipstick (includes main bearing bolt with stud to hold pickup in place)
Includes '93 A/C compressor, but A/C is not installed. (Needed for the serpentine belts.)
’76 F-150 3-inch rear brakes

The only modifications I had to make were:
Fabricate an accelerator cable bracket by combining an FE one with a 385 one.
Shorten the front driveshaft to adapt to the C-6 (with a conversion joint)
Change the C-6 internal shift linkage from a ’68 – ’79 C-6.

 

Thank you for the info. Do you think stock motor mounts will be ok for 600 HP. 650' pounds of torque. I was planning on putting at least one tie down from the frame to the head. I doubt if i ever drag race the truck it will probably just get cruzed around.

 

I would think so! The factory mounts are cross-bolted, which is why they are 3 pieces, and why they are so hard to find.
I doubt you'll need to chain it.

 

Thanks for the help.

 

The guy that built my stroker motor dropped the pan down 2" so it would hold about 8 quarts of oil, because it needed more. IT is a front sump truck but now the pan hits before it touches the mounts. I am a little confused, I thought on a front sump motor the pan actually would hang down in the front. But instead it hits right on the cross member?

 

Also what did you do for a tranny mount? will a mount for a 73 through 79 460 4x2 work with my cross member? Boy I am just full of questions, I have already asked 2 before you have even had a chance to reply to the 1st. I really do thank you for the help.

 

Need to switch to a rear sump 8 quart pan for 80 up F250s or E series vans.

Front sump larger pans hit the crossmember. All 385's in 2 wheel drives to 80 are front sump. 4x4s and later F series use the rear sump pan.

Garbz

 

Will the twin i beam suspension get in the way using a rear sump? Also how will this effect the headers and starter will either get in the way with the rear sump?

 

No the twin I Beam axles are contained within the crossmember.

Hedders are off to the sides unless you are using a canton type pan.

Starters and hedders are always a test fit.

Garbz

 

533 - You are welcome for the advice! I see Garbz has talked you through some of it - he helped me a lot with my swap.
Of course, I helped him with his - remember the tan monster Dave? I can still see it parked out back of my house!

533 - I used the rear sump pan, pump, pickup tube, bolt and dipstick out of an '83, and it fits just fine with the twin I-beam setup. You'll need to plug the dipstick hole in the timing cover, if it is there. Any of the '80s 460 oil pans will work. Be sure though, to get at least the pickup tube and main cap bolt that supports it, they are hard to find. Best to get it all, and then get a new oil pump anyway.
The front sump oil pump will not work in an '80s rear sump; the mating point for the pickup tube is located differently.

Here is the summary:
'79 and earlier car 460 - Front sump, will fit trucks '65 - '79 if stock, but the pan uses a side mounted drain plug. Hard to get in and out, makes a BIG mess.
'79 and earlier truck 4x2 - Front sump, fits trucks fine '65 - '79 if stock , and correct perches for a 460 are used. Modified or non-stock front sump pans usually interfere with cross-member.
'79 and earlier 4x4 truck - did not come with 460 until after 1980, not sure of the year.
'80 and later 4x4 and 4x2 with 460 - uses rear sump. Direct fit into the '65 - '79 trucks. Side mounted dipstick on drivers' side may interfere with headers.

Hope this helps!

 

Yes it does, thanks alot. Will the cross member in my 65 be compatable with the c6 tranny mount for mid 70s ford

 

Yes, it my be needed to be moved back a bit and the mount holes redrilled.

Garbz

 

Thank you, both of you guys have really helped me out alot.