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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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1. Did you have a gauge and can tell how much longer it took to get up to temps?

2. What about the extra length of time the trans is soaking in the hot fluid when you shut down?
1. Common sense.

2. When there is extra fluid in the pan, how is it "soaking" anything. Theres just as much fluid throughout the trans with a deep pan as there is with a standard pan. Your argument makes zero sense. Also, transmissions are hurt from heat mainly from shifting due to teh clutches slipping. When its parked, your really not hurting anything unless you got it so hot you are hurting seals. In which case the extra capacity would have made it harder to reach this point, so again the bigger pan would have made it harder to do damage.

I dont know why you are stuck on this argument, but it makes little, to no sense. How familiar are you with an automatic transmission and how it works?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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1. Common sense.

2. When there is extra fluid in the pan, how is it "soaking" anything. Theres just as much fluid throughout the trans with a deep pan as there is with a standard pan. Your argument makes zero sense. Also, transmissions are hurt from heat mainly from shifting due to teh clutches slipping. When its parked, your really not hurting anything unless you got it so hot you are hurting seals. In which case the extra capacity would have made it harder to reach this point, so again the bigger pan would have made it harder to do damage.

I dont know why you are stuck on this argument, but it makes little, to no sense. How familiar are you with an automatic transmission and how it works?
1. I was asking for how much longer it took to get to temps. What has common sense got to do with it? Yes, it takes longer to get to temps with a deep pan. How much longer? 5 mins? 10 mins? 20 mins?

2. What I was wondering is that if you got it hotter than it should be, won't it take longer to cool down.

Well, I am not a trans builder. I have talked to a few in my time. Why do you ask? Should we ask about YOUR credentials? Why don't you tell us why you think BTS is wrong when they don't think it makes much of a difference? They are going to warranty my trans for as long as I own it. Therefore, if it can help, why didn't they recommend it when I asked about it? It would be on my dime and it would help their warranty but cannot hurt it.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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1. It depends on how bad you are beating the trans, aftermarket torque converter or stock, lots of shifting or not, heavy load being towed, or small, etc etc.

2. It may take a little longer to cool if heated up a lot, but as was said aluminum cools much better tehn steel. Also, the point is it prevents it from getting to hot in the first place if you have the extra capacity. Imagine how hot it would be if it was the stock pan! Ask yourself that!
 
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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1. It depends on how bad you are beating the trans, aftermarket torque converter or stock, lots of shifting or not, heavy load being towed, or small, etc etc.

2. It may take a little longer to cool if heated up a lot, but as was said aluminum cools much better tehn steel. Also, the point is it prevents it from getting to hot in the first place if you have the extra capacity. Imagine how hot it would be if it was the stock pan! Ask yourself that!
1. Empty I am doing about 55 above ambient at this time. Loaded to 9000#, I am doing 75 above to 80 above.

2. I don't know what pan you are referring to but the ones I see are made of aluminum. While we agree that it is a better conductor of heat (about 3-4 times better), it is much thicker than the stock pan. As such, thermal conductivity between a thicker aluminum pan vs a thinner steel pan might be a push. After all, are we comparing 2 similar pans? I think not. We are comparing one thin steel pan vs 1 thick aluminum pan. The pan has way more mass than the stock.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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What has common sense got to do with it?
When someone says this its time to just walk away. No point trying to argue with Moonies at the airport!
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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While we agree that it is a better conductor of heat (about 3-4 times better), it is much thicker than the stock pan. As such, thermal conductivity between a thicker aluminum pan vs a thinner steel pan might be a push. After all, are we comparing 2 similar pans? I think not. We are comparing one thin steel pan vs 1 thick aluminum pan. The pan has way more mass than the stock.
Annnndddd, were done talking here....
 
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