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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 11:06 PM
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e450 dually transmission?

I have a 2006 e450 6.8l v10. Its a dually 14ft box truck. I'm looking to get some mag-hytec pans but I'm not sure which transmission it has.

4r100 or 5r110?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 01:24 AM
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does it have 4 forward gears or 5 gears?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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It's a 5R110. 2004 was the last year for the 4R100.

Besides lightening your wallet, what benefits do you expect from the pan? Making your wallet lighter is the only one I know of.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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Thanks for the info.

extra fluid for lower temp, ease of draining fluid
 
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 08:25 PM
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How will extra fluid lower the temp? I was a transmission cooling engineer and I was able to prove that a larger pan and extra fluid WILL NOT cool the transmission, but maybe you know something I don't.

No argument about the drain plug, but there is a cheaper way to get a drain plug.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
How will extra fluid lower the temp? I was a transmission cooling engineer and I was able to prove that a larger pan and extra fluid WILL NOT cool the transmission, but maybe you know something I don't.

No argument about the drain plug, but there is a cheaper way to get a drain plug.
That is surprising . Maybe a pan with cooling tubes might work?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 10:19 PM
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No, it will not. You need a better cooler to cool the fluid. A pan won't do it.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 10:35 PM
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I got a Tru-cool cooler and it lowered my transmission temps considerably for <$150.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
No, it will not. You need a better cooler to cool the fluid. A pan won't do it.
I've never used one but these are useless then? I've seen them for years and kinda wondered.

 
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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I'm sure they hold fluid just fine. It's not a cooler, though, it's a pan.

Have you ever been under a running truck? It's HOT! How would all that hot air help cool a transmission? It doesn't make sense.
 
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I've been under trucks but not while they are MOVING .
I think the theory would be that the air flows through the tubes and the air is still cooler than the fluid and greater surface area . Similar to a trans cooler in the radiator ? Hot rodders use them . I don't . I'd use a finned cooler.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 03:20 AM
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I have installed thermocouples in and around transmissions to measure the temps while moving. It is hotter than the trans. So how is that going to cool the ATF?
 
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Interesting . I would not have expected that . Approximately what was the ambient temp ?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 08:09 PM
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Whenever I ran cooling tests the ambient temp was a minimum of 95F. If I was running in a wind tunnel it was set at 95F with heat lamps adding sun load. Often we ran out in the Arizona desert, where it was anywhere from 95F to my personal record, 121F.
 
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I worked on a car at CopperWorld at PIR.
#57 Dave Byrd.(I'm in the video too . My team pointed me out) I hear you on temps. It cooled down to 105 at night and 120+ during the week.
 
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