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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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problem with replacement HFCM plug

Two years ago I installed the brass replacement plug in my HFCM. I only hand tightened it in , but I usually had to use pliers to get it out. This time, after not removing it for about 6 months, I needed vice grips to loosen it and it was tough going all the way out. Upon hand tightening back in, it would only go in about half way before I couldn,t turn it any more. Has any one had this problem, or does it seem normal? Thanks in advance, John
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Wow , I had the same experience last week. I thought it was me! I haven't seen any fuel spots so it must be tight enough.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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I did all my Filters last weekend and had the same problem. I hand tightened it when I bought it about 8 months ago and had to use vise grips as well. Channel locks only stripped the knurling off.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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I was going to purchase one of these HFCM plugs but instead I will stick with the stock plug. I have absolutely no problem removing it with an allen wrench. Thanks for posting the "long-term" effects of using this product.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Thanks for this post, I'm going to remove mine and put a little teflon tape on it to try and avoid a future problem.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Sure enough, the replacement plug that I could only hand tighten part way in was leaking this morning when I checked it. I still had the original plug and it went all the way in with no resistance at all. Tightened it with an allen key. For some reason the brass plug no longer fit properly. It looked just fine except that the inner half of the smooth portion, next to the threads, was very shinny, while the half next to the knurled **** was black. I don't know if that means anything, but it seems that if you have replaced your drain plug, you might want to ckeck it out.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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I will be putting the stock one back in. It is odd the there is a problem. The stock one is brass I belive.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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It sure sounds like the o-ring that was used was not compatible with diesel fuel long-term. Diesel is definitely hard on rubber products. It causes some types of rubber to swell and then decompose. Rub your hand over the o-ring. Does it turn black?

Did you ever change out the o-ring yourself? Do you use any fuel additives? How about biodiesel? ... or should we all be thinking about a two-year life on the rubber in our plug as well??
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 06:58 AM
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I don't think it is the oring. It looks like some reaction of the brass plug and alluminum HFCM housing. I guess it could be the oring as the plug was hard to turn all the way out.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Where are the chemists, is there a reaction between the brass and aluminum with a mixture of diesel fuel, I have never heard of one. I know that galvanized metal and copper have a reaction because of my home air conditioner. Has anyone seen an aluminum knurled plug?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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I bought the replacement plug and when I tried to put it in, it wouldn't go in, the rod that comes out of it was too long, now I am kind of glad I couldn't get it in.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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I think one thing that would help is not to wait six months between draining. You may have had the same problem with stock plug if left in long enough.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mustangbru8
I bought the replacement plug and when I tried to put it in, it wouldn't go in, the rod that comes out of it was too long, now I am kind of glad I couldn't get it in.
The rod is not too long, it just has to be at the right angle to go in. Doesn't take too much manipulating to get it to go.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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I drain my hfcm every oil change which is about 6 weeks and never had a problem with the new plug. I use an allen to tighten and loosen with no problem at all. I agree wth BIS that the stem needs a little manipulating but I find this a lot easier than the stock plug. Needless I almost stripped out the allen hole on the stock plug. What a PITA that would have been to get out at least with the thumb screw you can grab something.

My $.02 ........waiting for change
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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It definately was not the o ring. My original plug is steel, not brass. If there is some sort of reaction with the brass, I don't think taking it out more often is the best answer to the problem.
 
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