I got stuck in sand. Can't understand why the opposite wheels spin. I don't use it much but when I need it,,I neeeeeed it.. A friend of mine told me that the 4x4 is more like a limited slip.

Any way to modify to a true 4x4????

 

You can install locking differentials. The truck would be unstopable in the sand then.
It would get a tad squirrelly on the snow and especially ice.

Austin

 

where can I get this?????

 

I've only done it to one, and that was back in 1975. I was actually pissed when I discovered that my so called 4x4 was really 1 front wheel and 1 rear wheel drive. But I paid a shop in San Jose, CA about a grand to do it way back then, I put lockers both front and rear, but changed ratio's at the same time. I considered it money well spent as I was using the truck in hill climbing and sand racing a lot. It is not something you want to tackle yourself unless you're well schooled in the lash and all the other BS involved. Hah, I didn't answer your question. Find a gear shop in the yellow pages, or go to a drag strip and ask almost anyone racing who does their gear work for them.

 

what would be the setback to this if you had a daily driver?

 

Nothing as long as you install air lockers. You don't want the differential to be locked all the time, otherwise cornering on concrete becomes interesting.

 

Also don't forget the simple stuff like lowering the air pressure in your tires when you're
on the sand.

As Curtis stated, nothing wrong with lockers. You just need to drive around with them unlocked when you're not off roading.

 

I'm not sure we're all on the same page here. I was talking about using true positraction front and rear and it sounds like y'all are referring to locking hubs.

 

We're referring to locking differentials. You can get that on the big rigs, or on farm tractors. It locks the left and right wheel together with no slip.

 

I am having a hard time seeing this in my "learning disabled" according to lots of folks in the Club brain. What does it do, sort of temporarily weld the spider gears together? Electronic or vacuum, lever, just what? If you lock them together like that it will make it nearly impossible to turn a corner, or park, or hell, maneuver the vehicle at all.

 

You're not too disabled. You've got the right idea. On the big trucks it's a switch operated off of air pressure. On my farm tractor it's a pedal you just push down on. You're right. It's either a straight forward thing, or you can turn in the mud or sand since the tires will slip. You don't want to use it on pavement, but it comes in handy if you find yourself stuck.

 

Great news Chris, you just made my day, chit make that the entire month of July. Please tell bdox!!

 

Pretty much, yeah. On our trucks the front differential is an open diff, and the rear can either be open or limited slip (depending on what was ordered at the time). With an open differential, you get the one wheel spin, and that can happen to both the rear and the front diffs. With limited slip, it attempts to create an effect like a locking differential, but we all know that the units that come stock on these trucks isn't the best. With a locker, if you experience wheel slip when offroading, both tires will spin, not just one. It really helps tremendously when rock crawling or in a good bit of mud or sand.

You can find them in electronic or air locker. Air is better and more reliable, but requires the installation of an air pump and tank.

On concrete, yes. But offroad it's a completely different story. I've been on trails that were really steep, enough that my rear limited slip had both wheels spinning, and only one tire up front spinning. Barely made it uphill on a steep incline. A tiny little 4-banger Suzuki climbed right up the same hill like it was nothing..... he had lockers. On the other hand, another Powerstroke tried to climb the hill.... he had open diffs on both the front and rear, and only made it halfway up before he got stuck.

 

lockers for your rear axle(ford10.5in) can range from $300(lockright)to $700(detroit) $900(ARB air locker) a locker for your Dana 60 front axle $300(lockright) $650(detroit) $900(ARB air lockers) id go with lockright or detroit you dont have to worry about air lines and the are cheaper and simpler. a locker will lock all the time except when you turn on pavement

 

Just use the quote button and add that part to your signature. Maybe it will get his curiosity up and he'll come looking for me. Of course since I don't venture down to the club and he doesn't hang around the tech side much, it will be difficult for him to give me a hard time.

Sorry for the hijack Jzinkiewicz