Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

Surging Problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 03:13 PM
  #16  
petey shoes's Avatar
petey shoes
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 3
is gas cap vented? could there be some crap in fuel tank blocking flow? are you positive problem is fuel related and not , perhaps, ignition?
 
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 03:16 PM
  #17  
48 Panel's Avatar
48 Panel
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
im thinking ignition.i had not problems untill the moment i cut the muffler off and it started.
 
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:41 PM
  #18  
dylan1952's Avatar
dylan1952
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
You said originally you put on "flame throwers" what are they? Did these replace muffler like a glass packs? Did you check fuel pump,and fuel filter?
 
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:45 AM
  #19  
48 Panel's Avatar
48 Panel
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
see the thread on my signature and you'll understand.i put an aftermarket see-thru fuel filter between the steel line from the tank to the rubber hose up to the pump.i have not checked the fuel pump yet.im thinking its ignition related.check out this thread.

whats wrong with my 41 Ford??? - THE H.A.M.B.
 
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 07:21 PM
  #20  
petey shoes's Avatar
petey shoes
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 3
if carb is new rebuild, did you use new base gasket? is fuel filter flowing in right direction? you might want to check coil next time truck acts up. it could be getting too hot, consequently getting ready to puke! coil should be mounted IN air flow to keep cool. IF coil is frying, it could be frying condenser. this would cause higher rpm ,miss that could be seen as a surge. condensers do not know voltage (6 or 12 volt), 49-53 will do just fine. check INSIDE distributor cap, make sure there is no carbon tracking causing miss. make sure vacumn line and all fittings are sound. it's possible vacumn advance is puking. does carb have factory fuel filter on inlet to fuel bowl? these sometimes clog up, especially with new fuel. if so, it can be deleted as long as you keep inline filter in place. that should keep you busy for awhile!
 
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 07:42 PM
  #21  
dylan1952's Avatar
dylan1952
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
Sounds like Petey Shoes has some real good ideas, I would try to "rule out" one system before jumping to next system. You should check carb, fuel filter, fuel pump and tank and make sure the problem is definitely not in fuel system then start checking ignition system. These members, bobj49f2, ALBUQ f-1 or AXRACER are excellent trouble shooters. If nothing else I'm sure you will find your problem and basically end up with a tune-up.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:26 AM
  #22  
e william's Avatar
e william
Elder User
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 929
Likes: 0
From: S.C.
Here's a couple of things to try.....
If new fuel tank...some have a return port for fuel injection systems...if you cap this port you will have fuel issues at middle range. It will idle o.k. and run wide open throttle but not good in between...put a vent line on the extra port.
If the "flame thrower" is a new style coil...be sure you do or dont need the ballast resister in line with the dizzy, could be the system is overheating without a ballast resister.
Re-do all the carb settings...holly 94...start the fuel screws at apx. 1.5 turns and put a dwell meter on it, turn the screws apx. 1\8 turn. at a time to get the best idle (highest rpm and smoothest sound) when this is achieved back the fuel mix screws off apx. 1\8 to 1\2 of a turn. Then reset the curb idle speed....per your models repair book.
If still running points...check the point gap, cap contacts and rotor.
Just like your alternator issue, you have to rule out one complete system at a time, if you jump around trying to fix it you will more than likely just be "poke'n and hope'n".
good luck with it, Ed
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:49 AM
  #23  
gdgerland's Avatar
gdgerland
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 831
Likes: 1
From: San Antonio, Texas
Ed, I have watched his video and I understand that the "Flame thrower" is an exhaust system which lights up the unused fuel exiting the exhaust. He stated that the problem only started after he cut off his muffler and installed the flame thrower. Do you think it could have something to do with the loss of back pressure in the exhaust system and it's effect on the ignition timing? Just a thought, looks like everything else has been covered.

Gil
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Aug 1, 2008 | 01:48 PM
  #24  
48 Panel's Avatar
48 Panel
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
i put on a muffler i had laying around but no difference once it warms up.im so frustrated right now...
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2008 | 09:30 AM
  #25  
petey shoes's Avatar
petey shoes
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 3
back pressure shoudn't be a problem from midrange to top end, as energy of engine will " push" exhaust . ballast resistor is needed and could be brittle. part # std-u4 (standard) this is an old chrysler part-porcelain with threaded posts. is it possible that flamethrower had hot wire to ignite and is still connected and drawing current/grounding out? where is fuel filter located? fuel pump pulls fuel, so filter should be as close to pump as possible. within 15-18 inches is optimal. carb settings should not affect mid/high range performance, as vacumn is drawing fuel above high idle. when was last time you replaced points/condenser/cap/ wires? this sounds like electric issue with either overheat or grounding of one or more components. i can't help but think that coil/condenser/cap is issue. do thorough inspection of inside dist cap for carbon tracking!! it could be (jumping)/(arcing) from one cylinder to another at higher rpm's.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2008 | 11:49 AM
  #26  
rcav8or's Avatar
rcav8or
If you use it, SUPPORT IT
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,595
Likes: 0
From: Indiana
Just for giggles, make sure when you cut the muffler, if you are using the old pipes, that they weren't full of rust, that dropped down and partially or fully plugged the exhaust pipes. I've seen that happen before, to a guy who replaced his muffler - the exhaust was so old, it had tons of scale, and cutting the pipe, knocked it all down. Took us a LONG time to figure that one out! But it had the surge symptoms, only at higher speeds...sputter, sputter, sputter...

R
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2008 | 02:24 PM
  #27  
petey shoes's Avatar
petey shoes
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 3
good point! kinda like a catalytic converter plugged up
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gotime
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
4
Jun 22, 2013 05:15 PM
Dr. Dirt
1997 - 2003 F150
3
Jan 5, 2013 08:49 AM
a2racer86
Aerostar
5
Sep 22, 2010 10:22 PM
04X
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
44
Dec 13, 2006 08:03 AM
purplehaze bronco
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
1
Jan 3, 2004 08:30 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:17 AM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE