Engine Not Motor
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Wiki-Wiki isn't too accurate (so what else is new) depicting the history of Chrysler.
The Maxwell MOTOR Company was re-organized into Chrysler MOTORS.
The company began in 1924, not 1925.
Plymouth was introduced in 1926.
DeSoto was introduced in 1929.
Wiki says Chrysler was selling cars under the Dodge name beginning in 1914.
Impossible.
Walter P. Chrysler was works manager for Buick in 1914, and he soon was elevated to the president of General MOTORS, which he left in 1919.
The Dodge Brothers, Horace & John, started their own company in 1913, after Henry bought out their huge financial interests in Ford MOTOR Company.
Both brothers died in 1920 from Spanish Flu. The investment banking firm of Kidder-Peabody then took over running the company for the two Dodge widows.
Chrysler bought Dodge in 1929.
Chrysler had nothing to do with Dodge beforehand.
When Chrysler bought Dodge, the company name was changed to The Chrysler Corporation.
This info was typed off the cuff, not from Wiki-Wiki.
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OK, one last time...
The dictionary my kids use, Funk and Wagnalls New International Dictionary of the English Language, published in 1984
motor - n.
1. One who or that which produces motion, as a machine, nerve, etc.
2. An internal-combustion engine, especially one operating on gasoline.
3. A motorcar or motorcycle.
4. An electric motor.
rotary motor - An internal combustion engine having multiple radial cylinders rotating about a fixed crankshaft.
adjective:
1. Causing, producing, or impartion motion.
2. Transmitting impulses from the nerve centers to the muscles.
3. Pertaining to the consciousness of motion.
v.i. (Verb intransitive?)
1. To travel or ride in an automobile.
The dictionary my kids use, Funk and Wagnalls New International Dictionary of the English Language, published in 1984
motor - n.
1. One who or that which produces motion, as a machine, nerve, etc.
2. An internal-combustion engine, especially one operating on gasoline.
3. A motorcar or motorcycle.
4. An electric motor.
rotary motor - An internal combustion engine having multiple radial cylinders rotating about a fixed crankshaft.
adjective:
1. Causing, producing, or impartion motion.
2. Transmitting impulses from the nerve centers to the muscles.
3. Pertaining to the consciousness of motion.
v.i. (Verb intransitive?)
1. To travel or ride in an automobile.
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Websters Dictionary, International Encyclopedic Edition
Motor n.
1. A machine that converts electric energy into mechanical power.
Engine n.
1. A machine that uses energy esp. energy from fuel to perform work.
I am not surprised to find that new dictionaries might have a motor listed as a definition of an engine. As I have stated before, we as people make up words, and their definitions. If enough people use the word motor for a definition of Engine, then with time, they will mean the same thing.
With time, we might find a definition of a suv and a truck being the same.
Motor n.
1. A machine that converts electric energy into mechanical power.
Engine n.
1. A machine that uses energy esp. energy from fuel to perform work.
I am not surprised to find that new dictionaries might have a motor listed as a definition of an engine. As I have stated before, we as people make up words, and their definitions. If enough people use the word motor for a definition of Engine, then with time, they will mean the same thing.
With time, we might find a definition of a suv and a truck being the same.
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2002, which is fairly new.
In the Southeastern United States, Nascar guys have been using the word Motor for years. I am a Southerner by heart, and I love Nascar, but it is a misuse of the term. But that is ok... we all know what they mean. I have used the word motor for my engine. It doesn't make it correct, but people knew what I was talking about. How many people call a adjustable wrench a Crescent Wrench."I'll hold up my hand" Everyone knows what we are talking about, but not all adjustable wrenches are Crescent Wrenches.
Anyway,,,, call an engine anything you want, but the kid was right and everyone was jumping on him. Old age teaches us to check first and jump later.
In the Southeastern United States, Nascar guys have been using the word Motor for years. I am a Southerner by heart, and I love Nascar, but it is a misuse of the term. But that is ok... we all know what they mean. I have used the word motor for my engine. It doesn't make it correct, but people knew what I was talking about. How many people call a adjustable wrench a Crescent Wrench."I'll hold up my hand" Everyone knows what we are talking about, but not all adjustable wrenches are Crescent Wrenches.
Anyway,,,, call an engine anything you want, but the kid was right and everyone was jumping on him. Old age teaches us to check first and jump later.
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23 hours to get 40 posts...GOOD TOPIC!
Use of the term does not bother me. People who can barely spell or punctuate don't bother me. People who ask a question and reject all plausible answers, but can't figure it out...don't get the opportunity to bother me.
So I guess you can have your pet peeve, it won't bother me.
Use of the term does not bother me. People who can barely spell or punctuate don't bother me. People who ask a question and reject all plausible answers, but can't figure it out...don't get the opportunity to bother me.
So I guess you can have your pet peeve, it won't bother me.
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So what about hydraulic motors? As a diesel technician in the ag area I can assure you that hydraulic motors have nothing to do with electricity.
Anyway, I'm glad that this thread is booming and in roughly the same amount of time I've gotten one response to my tech related thread that is relevant to the FE engine family and performance.....
-Jake
Anyway, I'm glad that this thread is booming and in roughly the same amount of time I've gotten one response to my tech related thread that is relevant to the FE engine family and performance.....
-Jake
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It's still a motor.
Here's another definition from Audel's Mechanical Dictionary from 1942. Yes, 1942
Motor - Any apparatus designed to produce motion or do work : a prime mover. The application of the term is usually restricted to two senses:
1. Small secondary movers working by means of energy transmitted from a central source of power, as in electric, hydraulic, or pneumatic systems of power transmission.
2. Internal combustion or electric engines, used to propel vehicles on ordinary roads (motor cars), or internal combustion engines employed for propulsion of small craft or for working single vehicles on railways.
Yes, that's right, taken from a real Audel's book in my hands.
Of course, the Audel's Electric dictionary fro 1942 clearly states a "motor" is an electric motor working on AC or DC current. The term "motor" applied to a gas engine is "objectionable".
So, which are you? An electrical engineer? In that case, the term "motor" doesn't apply to a gas "engine" and doing so is objectionable.
Mechanical engineer? "Motor" means anything that moves something, including an internal combustion engine.
Even Audel contradicts himself
Here's another definition from Audel's Mechanical Dictionary from 1942. Yes, 1942
Motor - Any apparatus designed to produce motion or do work : a prime mover. The application of the term is usually restricted to two senses:
1. Small secondary movers working by means of energy transmitted from a central source of power, as in electric, hydraulic, or pneumatic systems of power transmission.
2. Internal combustion or electric engines, used to propel vehicles on ordinary roads (motor cars), or internal combustion engines employed for propulsion of small craft or for working single vehicles on railways.
Yes, that's right, taken from a real Audel's book in my hands.
Of course, the Audel's Electric dictionary fro 1942 clearly states a "motor" is an electric motor working on AC or DC current. The term "motor" applied to a gas engine is "objectionable".
So, which are you? An electrical engineer? In that case, the term "motor" doesn't apply to a gas "engine" and doing so is objectionable.
Mechanical engineer? "Motor" means anything that moves something, including an internal combustion engine.
Even Audel contradicts himself
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[quote=NumberDummy;6382525]Did you get that Chrysler Corporation info from Wikipedia?
Wiki-Wiki isn't too accurate (so what else is new) depicting the history of Chrysler.
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BINGO! I shoulda knowed better than to take anything from Wiki.
Thanks.
Wiki-Wiki isn't too accurate (so what else is new) depicting the history of Chrysler.
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quote]
BINGO! I shoulda knowed better than to take anything from Wiki.
Thanks.
