460 EFI MAF conversion
#35
OK first off I didnt look if it has a MAF chip yet, also I dont know the metter sise , its raining atm i will check tomorrow and my system is OBD-II not I so the dyno shop said np...
also if theres any problems they install a chip the sends out correct data to the sencers, and that chip sets in between the EEC - CHIP - wire harness not sure how it works but it does ,,,
also if theres any problems they install a chip the sends out correct data to the sencers, and that chip sets in between the EEC - CHIP - wire harness not sure how it works but it does ,,,
#37
The best place I have found to find the ECU numbers is from the source itself. The link below points to the Ford Motocraft website that allows you to look up by year, vehicle, and engine type; the possible emission calibration codes. Each calibration code is unique to that year, vehicle type and engine size. You will see there were several calibration codes possible.
You might have to work your way through the calibration codes to find ones certified for California but they are there. You will see that 1996 and 1997 California spec'ed 7.5L engines were Mass Air and the 49 State/Canada were still Speed Density. There were still some 7.5L California spec'ed Speed Density trucks but they were the Super Duty, over 14k payload trucks.
Once you open up a calibration, the under hood emission sticker(s) will come up first and at the bottom of the page, a list of part numbers for all items related to emissions including the ECU for that emission code. If it is a Mass Air equipped type, it will show the Mass Air part number.
Go to : www.Motorcraftservice.com
Click on Quick Guides under Non -Subscription Resources
Scroll down to the bottom and click on VECI Labels
Select: Year, Vehicle, and Engine Type
Hope this helps.
You might have to work your way through the calibration codes to find ones certified for California but they are there. You will see that 1996 and 1997 California spec'ed 7.5L engines were Mass Air and the 49 State/Canada were still Speed Density. There were still some 7.5L California spec'ed Speed Density trucks but they were the Super Duty, over 14k payload trucks.
Once you open up a calibration, the under hood emission sticker(s) will come up first and at the bottom of the page, a list of part numbers for all items related to emissions including the ECU for that emission code. If it is a Mass Air equipped type, it will show the Mass Air part number.
Go to : www.Motorcraftservice.com
Click on Quick Guides under Non -Subscription Resources
Scroll down to the bottom and click on VECI Labels
Select: Year, Vehicle, and Engine Type
Hope this helps.
Last edited by Kurtis K; 01-27-2010 at 11:34 AM. Reason: Original posted link not working directly
#38
#41
Hey 1994460,(sorry about that last post , my 1 year old ran up to me and pushed all the buttons on my keyboard at once I have been piecing together a MAF kit for my '97 460 w/E4OD over the past year. Got my harness from IST in jasper, GA. I found a pcm on ebay code FEZ3. The part # is F6TF-12A650-AMD. I was told this is the final rev. for a Cali. emissions 460 with E4OD trans. It is the 104 pin, EEC-V OBD-II. This setup uses 3 O2 sensors instead of the SD's 1. The stock maf sensor itself is 80mm, the part # on mine is YC2F-12B579-BA (this on has the 6 pin connector w/ the IAT sensor mounted in the maf sensor itself like the new trucks). I havent installed this set up yet I need a few more parts and such as the Y intake (NLA from ford), and finding time to do it is not easy either. I have found several other people on here who have given good details on this conversion. Let me know if you need anymore #s if I can help.
#43
Here is a good thread with lots of part #s https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/2...st-460s-2.html
#44
What would be the benefit of going with an EEC-5 vs the 4? I have a harness overlay kit coming to me which should handle the meter and injectors. I believe this approach only has me pinning into the existing ECU plug (correct if I'm wrong). I think the 4's are a 60 pin so in order to install a 5 I would be looking at a complete harness install?
#45
You're right. As far as I know all the eec IV pcm's are 60 pin. I'm definitely not an expert on this stuff. A lot of what I have learned about pcm capability and whatyears used I found on the mustang forums. You're also righ about the harness. I want to the local junkyard and got a 104 pin harness (the pigtail and about 1 feet of wire) out of a '02 expedition for $10. I may be wrong, but to my understanding there are no 60 pin pcm's in 3/4 or 1 ton trucks that can run the E4OD and have MAF built into them. I do have here a F4TF-ARB (code JAB1) that is a '95 truck 5.0 with mass air and auto trans. I am assuming it is for an AODE or 4R70? It is also a 60 pin eec IV. I ended up with it because it was very cheap, and now its sitting here in my shelf.....but i dont think it has the ability to run the E4OD in the big trucks. Anyway, the harness I got from the expedition, I checked all the pin outs and the wire colors and they are all the same, even all the injectors. I am only going to have to add about 3 or 4 pins to the pigtail. Another thing about the ECC-V is that it is OBD-II and has a data link connector. I have read in other places that these later "emissions" pcm's are not much for performance compared to the older mustang GT computers. I'm not worrying about that much, I think it is all in the ability of the tuner as to what they can make it do. If you truck has a manual trans than you could easily use a 60 pin eec IV for you conversion. What pcm did you end with and where did you get your harness? just curious. Later