Ive Seen alot of people on here bash the Edge Products. I have a Edge Evo and i dont do anything big like race or pull, just wondering if its that bad for normal driving and and an ocainal show off.

 

I don't believe Edge is/has a bad product, I think it's just not good for the 6.0. I don't have any tuner on my truck, but there are guys that have run tuners other than the preferred XCal2 and 3 and haven't had problems, but there are probably more that did have problems. Tex might chime in, I think he ran another tuner before the XCal and had alot of tuner-induced problems. Something else to think about, if you have problems and the dealer sees you're running a tuner, you could very possibly lose your remaining warranty and face a large repair bill out of pocket. HTH- Tim

 

I did run the BullyDog Triple Dog setup and I did enjoy the power that it provided, but custom is just all that much better then one size fits all tuning. I did have headgasket problems, I don't know that the tuner did in fact cause them, but I can't rule them out as a cause either. One thing is for sure that if you have a programmer of any type(rather inline or flash) that are of the one size fits all type of programming it will eventually expose problems that your truck has and/or create them as well.

That is very true. Also even if the dealership that you go to might overlook it for you, if you have to go to another dealership for whatever reason, they might not extend that same good favor to you and then your original dealership won't be able to help you under warranty any longer.

 

well i already have it and im a poor college student...lol so i dont realy want to get another tuner. What problems will show up if i just keep runing it only at a lower tune?

 

nothing you'll be fine. I think you can get custom tunes from powerhungryperformance for the evolution.

 

One problem that is associated with edge stuff with the 6.0 is auto tranny problems. It has been known to smoke a few trannys. Erratic shifting, servos not wanting to shift etc.

The other would be headgasket issues. Due to the fact that most off the shelf tuners increase cylinder pressures in order to achieve higher hp/tq numbers that will eventually stretch the bolts. Particularly if you start to rag on the vehicle before you get to operating temperature. Don't rely on the stock engine temp gauge to tell you if your at operating temp. as I know that with mine it will show normal temp on the stock gauge, but it would still be about 25-30 degrees from being there on the aftermarket gauge. Of course raging on the truck before getting to operating temp will stretch headbolts even with stock tuning, so no matter what setting you run the risk of that, but even more so with tuning.

 

That's not complete true. It might be fine, but there are chances that it will give him problems, so to say nothing will happen is not totally the truth. Like I said, I can cause my headbolts to stretch with stock tuning and I promise it will take less effort to do that with any type of tuning programming especially with tunes that increase cylinder pressures to achieve bigger hp/tq numbers.

 

Hey man i have run my edge for about 3 years, no tranny no engine problems..look those wil come with any type of tuner, however with that said i have only run it on level 4 like 3 times, and i mainly run it on level 1. Maybe im lucky i dunno. Seems like if i went with a custom tuner and put a big tune on there im way more likly to blow my head gaskets. Plenty of people have reported issues with head gaskets running those custom tunes. Its all personal preference. Your always at risk of messing something up...its just a machine stuff happens no matter stock or tuned...its just life bud. Just be smart about it and you will lesser your chance of messing something up

 

The true problem is that you can't really tell if it was the tuner or if the tuner really brought an issue to the forefront. Like I said, I had the bully dog tuner on there and I had to deal with headgasket issues. Do I know that the tuner ruined the heads, no because I don't know if it came from the factory that way and I'm also not one of the kindest drivers on my trucks when it's not pulling weight. Your right though, it is a machine and you run the risk rather you keep it stock or not, but to say that you won't have a problem by keeping a power adder even on level 1 is irresponsible in my opinion(this is just a peeve that I have had from other posts on the subject, not specifically from anyone on this thread). Just because someone was lucky and not have had problems doesn't mean the next person down the road won't have problems doing the same thing that you did. I knew one guy with a 6.0 that was running an inline bullydog module(why I went with the bully dog originally based on his opinion) and he has yet to have headgaskets problems which is why I don't really believe the statement that one user brought on the board here a year ago last summer about all inline fuel devices will cause headgasket problems on a 6.0, but the propensity for there to be problems is much higher that is for sure.

 

What would be the benefit of getting a custom tune for my evo?

 

I dunno. better shifting probably. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

never said that keeping the level low is a guarantee that it wont break, i said that no matter stock or tuned you run the risk its a machine they break...its just life...just be smart about it, if ur worried dont put it on level 5 and do a burn out everyday haha. I like the product, if you dont save up and get something different. for everyday driving you will be fine. thats how i use mine, if something break well something breaks.

 

Advantages of custom tuning over off the shelf tuning is like already mentioned better shifting and shifting where you want it to shift. Able to use your turbo as an exhaust brake if you do alot of towing or even if you just do a little bit of towing but it's heavy loads. Also FICM tuning is available for even more fuel economy potential then before. You also have the ability to add on other aftermarket goodies as funds allow or if your inclined to do other such mods. All three modules on my truck have been custom tuned and you just can't get that with off the shelf tuning and there aren't many custom tuners that can do that yet(they are trying though and eventually all custom tunes will be like that), however if you wanting to get the evo as a platform for tune delivery for custom tunes, you have to check with the people that do tuning for the evo if they are able to tune all three modules with their tunes. There are more options available that you can get thru custom tuning then just plain better shifting though. I know Matt has winter tunes that allow for quicker warmup(don't even have to run the high idle mod that much with that tune) so you idle even less. There are even more. He also has tunes for those that run snow plows on their trucks to make the truck more efficient working in the snow. Now not all of this would apply to everyone, but the point I'm trying to illustrate here is that you get more bang for your buck then one size fits all tuning.

 

well i dont do anything other than drive my truck i dont tow... except for a bumper pull everynow and then. why is the better shifting that inportant?

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP!!!

 

Well in my mind when I say better shifting is when you have it programmed to shift when you want to. That comes in handy if how you drive doesn't actually fit the programming(in this case shifting program) that comes with off the shelf tuning. Now you can also increase shift pressure better with custom tuning then off the shelf, but to me shifting patter is more of a plus then shift firmness, but firmness also has it's place to get me wrong.