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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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My insight was to reaffirm your suspicion.
Yes, but you are also saying projectSHO89's interpretation of the code is incorrect, right?

That's why I brought this up again before I start working on it.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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It's true that different model years can have different codes. But to the best of my knowledge, those different codes are in addition to the basic set of codes shown here in this list.

</B></B>Air Bag Diagnostic Codes </B>

<TABLE cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center>1989-1991</TD><TD vAlign=center>
On the '89-91 systems, you simply count the flashes from the Airbag lamp to get the fault code.

<TABLE cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TH vAlign=top>Code</TH><TH vAlign=top>Component Fault/Description </TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>2</TD><TD vAlign=center>All Primary Crash Sensors Disconnected. </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>3</TD><TD vAlign=center>Air Bag Deployment Circuit - Low Battery Voltage or Low Backup Power Supply Voltage </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>4</TD><TD vAlign=center>Safing Sensor - Diagnostic Circuit Open or Low Primary Crash Sensor Resistance </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>5</TD><TD vAlign=center>Air Bag Circuit or Crash Sensor Circuit - Shorted to Ground </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>6</TD><TD vAlign=center>Driver-Side Air Bag Circuit - Open or High Resistance </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>7</TD><TD vAlign=center>Passenger-Side Air Bag Circuit - Open or High Resistance </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>8</TD><TD vAlign=center>Primary Crash Sensor - Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>9</TD><TD vAlign=center>Primary Crash Sensor Circuit - Open or High Resistance </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>10</TD><TD vAlign=center>Diagnostic Monitor Internal Thermal Fuse - Open Due to Intermittent Short to Ground </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>1992-</TD><TD vAlign=center>
To obtain the code on systems for years 92 and up, count two sets of flashes and interpret it as a 2-digit code (e.g., flash-flash pause flash-flash-flash = 23)

<TABLE cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Code</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Component Fault/Description </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>12</TD><TD vAlign=center>Low Battery Voltage </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>13</TD><TD vAlign=center>Air Bag Circuit - Shorted to Ground </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>14</TD><TD vAlign=center>Primary Crash Sensor - Shorted to Ground </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>21</TD><TD vAlign=center>Safing Sensor - Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>22</TD><TD vAlign=center>Safing Sensor Output Circuit - Shorted to Battery Voltage </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>23</TD><TD vAlign=center>Safing Sensor Input Feed/Return Circuit - Open </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>24</TD><TD vAlign=center>Safing Sensor Output Feed/Return Circuit - Open </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>32</TD><TD vAlign=center>Driver-Side Air Bag Circuit - High Resistance or Open </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>33</TD><TD vAlign=center>Passenger-Side Air Bag Circuit - High Resistance or Open </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>34</TD><TD vAlign=center>Driver-Side Air Bag Circuit - Low Resistance or Shorted </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>35</TD><TD vAlign=center>Passenger-Side Air Bag Circuit - Low Resistance or Shorted </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>41</TD><TD vAlign=center>Primary Crash Sensor #1 Feed/Return Circuit - Open </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>42</TD><TD vAlign=center>Primary Crash Sensor #2 Feed/Return Circuit - Open </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>44</TD><TD vAlign=center>Primary Crash Sensor #1 - Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>45</TD><TD vAlign=center>Primary Crash Sensor #2 - Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>51</TD><TD vAlign=center>Diagnostic Monitor Internal Thermal Fuse - Open Due to Intermittent Short to Ground </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>52</TD><TD vAlign=center>Backup Power Supply - Voltage Boost Fault </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center>53</TD><TD vAlign=center>Primary Crash Sensor Circuits - Resistance to Ground, or Internal Diagnostic Monitor Fault </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center></TD><TD vAlign=center>Rapid Continuous Flashing of AIR BAG Readiness Lamp - All Primary Crash Sensors Disconnected </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
If you plan to work on your airbag system, exercise extreme caution. Personal injury may result if you accidently deploy an air bag. The airbag system is live all of the time - it is not switched on and off by the key. There are also backup power supplies. The 1989 - 91 system will discharge in about 20 minutes after the battery is disconnected. The service manual says that it must be disconnected to safely work on the vehicle. The 1992+ system will discharge in about one minute after disconnecting the battery.

Never attach a self-powered test light to any part of an airbag system. If you want to work on the system, acquire and review a manual that covers servicing of the system. Examples are the Air Bag System Diagnosis training manual from Ford, as well as the shop manuals from Helm.

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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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For goodness sake. You're actually quoting stuff that's 10-15 years out of date?

Seriously, look up the codes in the CORRECT manual.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
For goodness sake. You're actually quoting stuff that's 10-15 years out of date?

Seriously, look up the codes in the CORRECT manual.
This is exactly what I was afraid of...

I guess it is time to give the stealership a call and see if I can verify the meaning of the code from them.

Not saying I'm doubting either one of you, but since there are two views of this, I guess I'll have to go for the third opinion...
 
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Let's see.... One used the factory 2004 Workshop manual, the other used stuff that was 10-15 years old.

You decide.

I have the exact same manual the dealership was issued for the 04.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
Let's see.... One used the factory 2004 Workshop manual, the other used stuff that was 10-15 years old.
After all of your lip flapping, I'd sure hate to be you if it turns out you're wrong.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
Let's see.... One used the factory 2004 Workshop manual, the other used stuff that was 10-15 years old.

You decide.

I have the exact same manual the dealership was issued for the 04.
My intention was not to doubt either of you. Especially since I did not know where you got the information from. The 2004 Workshop Manual is a good source, for sure.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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After all of your lip flapping, I'd sure hate to be you if it turns out you're wrong.
You should be more concerned about being yourself and for providing incorrect and obsolete information...

 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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QUESTION:

I have a 2001 EB Expedition, and I'm pretty sure my airbag light blinks 36 (but I'll count again to make certain). I have a friend who has a scantool, and the ODB connector shows DRIVERS SIDE AIG BAG HIGH RESISTANCE & PASSENGER SIDE AIRBAG HIGH RESISTANCE.

I went to the dealer for that cruise control recall thing the other day, and the dealer guy said its usually the clock spring in the drivers steering wheel.... So because my friend is a mechanic at a dealership (not for ford's however) he borrowed some tools, that simulate a correct airbag installed - so he pulled the steering wheel, same error, removed the clock spring and same error, got under the dash (drivers side) and got the same error. These errors will NOT clear from the computer even with his scantool btw.

So, now the question is - WHAT IN THE F*** CAN THIS BE!?

He said it might be the airbag control module is bad? I DONT KNOW. I just bought this truck about 3 months ago - and that light (and the ck suspension light) is driving me crazy!

I WILL COUNT OR VIDEO THE LIGHT BLINKING LATER AND RE-POST.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Araltd
I went to the dealer for that cruise control recall thing the other day, and the dealer guy said its usually the clock spring in the drivers steering wheel....
A code 32 can be caused by a bad clock spring. A code 36 usually means you have a bad connection to the airbag.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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I also have a 42 code where is the crash sensor and pigtail. And do you know how much and where i can get the part?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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you have to get the exact flash sequence to get the right repair. mine was blinking 42, so i replaced the crash sensor and pigtail, and it went away.

I also have a 42 code where is the crash sensor and pigtail. And do you know how much and where i can get the part? Thank you for the help
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Ok, verified my airbag blink code is 3 6

Like I mentioned, my friend has a scantool and this was the error's it shows.



Like I said, the friend of mine is a mechanic at a dealership (again, not ford) here.... so he borrowed (from a ford tech) some special tools and sensor clips... and he checked the entire drivers side steering column, checking the connectors all the way from the airbag itself, clock spring, column to under the dash - no change in error code.. Never got to the passenger side.

I looked under my passenger seat, and I have 2 cables NOT connected at all, one has a YELLOW cap on it, which he explains to me is probably for a side airbag I do not have? and the other is probably for powerseat on passenger side, which again - I do not have. I do NOT see a place where these "should" be connected, so I'm assuming he is right. Now, that being said - I really don't know what it is I am supposed to be looking for...so... I'm a little lost too at this stage.

What are some of the things I should check for - and I will absolutely look!

I want to thank those who take the time to participate in these question threads... It is very helpful to people like me and many many other's who simply read and never post. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH!
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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Okay... Coming back to this airbag light issue...

Today when I picked the Expedition from the shop from replacing the pinion and carrier bearings I asked them to hook up their scanner to see what the airbag code really is.

It came back as B2292, which indicates a problem with the passenger side seat belt pretensioner.

Now... The question is: How do I fix it? I'm assuming I need to get a new seat belt buckle system to the passenger side. Or...? If so, does anybody have a part # for that, or what ever I need, as I guess dealer is the only place to go to get what I need...?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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Okay... Coming back to this airbag light issue...

Today when I picked the Expedition from the shop from replacing the pinion and carrier bearings I asked them to hook up their scanner to see what the airbag code really is.

It came back as B2292, which indicates a problem with the passenger side seat belt pretensioner.

Now... The question is: How do I fix it? I'm assuming I need to get a new seat belt buckle system to the passenger side. Or...? If so, does anybody have a part # for that, or what ever I need, as I guess dealer is the only place to go to get what I need...?
Often times, those codes are due to a poor/loose connection at the SRS module which is probably located under the front passenger seat.

Disconnect the battery negative cable, then reseat the SRS module connectors.
 
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