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Jun 16, 2008 | 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fomoko1

I had a 59 Ford tudor/292/3 on thre tree and this one was no slug.
The rise did work, cough, cough, hmmmm.....

My Dad's '58 Ford wagon was probably heavier than the sedan, with a 2 bbl. carb., small (272) V8, compared to your 292. I don't know if you had the 2 bbl., or the 4 bbl., but the 20 more cubes and lighter weight would make a difference.

It wasn't a slug, but compared to his previous car, a '56 Ford Fairlane, 4 dr. with the 4 bbl., 312 V8, dual exhaust, it was not in the same league.

Unfair comparison I admit...4bbl. vs 2 bbl., 40 cubes difference.

What I was saying, not too clearly

was that a truck as big and heavy as a F600 would be under powered with the small 272 V8. I know they use gearing to compensate, but it would still be pressed. My understanding was that the 223 six was the standard engine in the F600....wow....that would be something.

It wasn't just Ford that followed this practice of small engines in big trucks...Chevy, Dodge, IH....all did. I remember one of the grain trucks on my FIL's farms in Mb. was an old '50's, municipal dump truck, mod. to haul more grain ( heavy wood fixed to the side of the metal dump box to give more volume) and that thing had a 226 cu. inch corn binder six.

It would move the grain, but it was in the top range of it's rpm.

Jun 16, 2008 | 09:10 PM

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I`m pretty sure it had the 2 bbl, plain jane 2 dr sedan so it probably was alot lighter and it was a blast to drive.
My 61 F600/292/5 sp/2 sp rear axle grain truck on the other hand wasn`t a fire ball but it did haul grain.

Jun 16, 2008 | 10:14 PM

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BIG RED **** on the stick, was there?

GRANNY and ROAD...

I'd love to have one of those rear axles around if I ever really build a WILD MUD TRUCK again...

With that and an overdrive, you'd have four gear ranges.

Jun 16, 2008 | 10:17 PM

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I`ve got a 59 Ford F600 here with a 2 sp rear axle.
Come and get it, it`s your`s for the taking, it`s headed to the scrap yard, sad to say that no one wants it.

Jun 16, 2008 | 11:34 PM

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Too bad i couldnt find a use for it, sad to see it get scrapped.

Jun 16, 2008 | 11:40 PM

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DAMMIT

I don't suppose you could save the axle?

Ain't no way I can git up there to grab it anyhow...

So much stuff is lost all the time, scrapped, crushed, sold to china - and for what? FOR WHAT REASON?

So they can build inferior things that endanger us...

Or do away with what is old and served us well so far.

Again and again I see the past slip away
Fine things worn out - but not rebuilt with new parts.
Brilliant things that did well for us all, gone for good
Because the scrap price comes before time spent to make new

Parts not used, assemblies trashed
China fat, old iron long lost and gone away
Alloy wheels wasted, instead of sold for what they are really worth
Who would pay the scrap price for an old set of centerlines???

But we don't get that chance.
The ROACHES get there first!
And so the wheels and the bodies, FRAMES and all the rest that we could run...
THEY DIE!

I hope that brings tears to some right thinking hotrodders eyes...

~Greywolf

Jun 16, 2008 | 11:45 PM

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Shipping it would be amazingly expensive too I bet.

Jul 7, 2008 | 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowking

I just don't see why people spend that much money on older trucks bigger then a a 1ton.... Sure it's neat though, but really what are you going to do with a Cummings powered fire truck?

Snowking, I see you have a 56 project of your own. Looks good.
To answer your question.. I have owned and driven my 56 for 13yrs. I was checking into rebuilding the 272 but found out it would be about 2K and I would still have an under powered truck.
I drive for UPS and my last truck was a freightliner with the 5.9 cummins+ 5sp trans. I really enjoyed driving that truck, so that got me thinking about a cummins swap. I have a small budget so the best way to go was to buy a complete truck with the cummins in it, after 2 years of searching I found a 94 ford f700 box truck that had brake problems paid 2k for it took out the cummins and parted out the rest so the cummins cost me $300 so far but If I can sell the front and rear axle I'll be ahead of the game. The only Items I still need is a eaton 15040s rearend with 3.36 ratio and 6lug buds so I can keep my stock wheels and a vacuum pump for my hydro-vac brakes.
I am doing all the work myself so its costing alot of time ( maybe my marriage) time will tell.