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Old May 27, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Customcab
It could be a temporary tag; these trucks had a temp tag given to the owner from the dealership I beleive; and maybe the 1st owner place it on the firewall.
Temporary tag, what the heck is that?? A temporary tag given to an owner? There's no such thing.

Unless, it's this:

When vehicles were sold (new or used) back then, the dealer not only put the temporary registration (not called a tag) with the buyers info on it at the right front corner of the windshield, like they still do today, but taped on a temporary paper license plate (called a tag in some states) on the rear bumper or body.

New vehicles back then didn't come with owners cards (rendered moot today by computers).

A temporary owners card was filled out by the selling dealer (one type was used for cars & trucks). The real McCoy was sent by Ford to the registered owner about a month after the purchase.

That's all she wrote when it comes to a temporary anything.

The VIN is what the truck is registered by (since 1948) and is on the Warranty Plate, and as cs65 mentioned, on the passenger side frame rail.

The VIN was also stamped on some trucks (and cars) on the front crossmember, just underneath the harmonic balancer by the San Jose Assembly Plant.

From what I've discovered (my truck has its VIN stamped there), this was by request of the CA DMV, and was only done on vehicles sold new in CA.

Some of these trucks have metal buck tags on the firewall, it depended on the assembly plant. Some do not have buck tags.

Under the front seat, (or the floor mats of some Standard Cabs) is where Ford stuck the build sheet, some remain today, most are history.

There's a metal tag on the left front hinge of the drivers seat. Good luck decoding it. It refers to the type of material, the type of seat, and what it was used on.

The seats were purchased by Ford from an outside supplier, the info on that seat tag could only be read by Ford.
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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Buck Tag

Define metal buck tag, please.


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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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Ok, finished my 24 hour shift. The plate which is attached to the firewall looks like it was stamped by the factory. I think it's a buck tag. In any event, it has a partial VIN and some other numbers/letters on there too. It says:

41 2880D 4


2880 are the last 4 digits of the truck's VIN

Not sure what the rest of it means. I looked for a VIN on the passenger frame rail by the alternator, but didn't see one. Is that the only spot?
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jowilker
Define metal buck tag, please.


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Not sure how it worked for trucks, but Mustangs got what was called a buck tag which had a partial vin and a series of codes for the options the vehicle was to receive as it rolled down the assembly line.
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jowilker
Didn't say there weren't any, said I didn't recall any. I have seen a tag pinned to the top of the firewall on some, but not on all. It didn't seem to bother the running of the truck so I didn't think much about it.

Black trucks have really picked up speed in the last 10-15 years.


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John; I wasn't questioning you; I just didn't know if there wasn't an option of two tone black & white. I learned a heckofa lot from you more than my pea-brain can handle.

Mitch
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Temporary tag, what the heck is that?? A temporary tag given to an owner? There's no such thing.

Unless, it's this:

When vehicles were sold (new or used) back then, the dealer not only put the temporary registration (not called a tag) with the buyers info on it at the right front corner of the windshield, like they still do today, but taped on a temporary paper license plate (called a tag in some states) on the rear bumper or body.

New vehicles back then didn't come with owners cards (rendered moot today by computers).

A temporary owners card was filled out by the selling dealer (one type was used for cars & trucks). The real McCoy was sent by Ford to the registered owner about a month after the purchase.

That's all she wrote when it comes to a temporary anything.

The VIN is what the truck is registered by (since 1948) and is on the Warranty Plate, and as cs65 mentioned, on the passenger side frame rail.

The VIN was also stamped on some trucks (and cars) on the front crossmember, just underneath the harmonic balancer by the San Jose Assembly Plant.

From what I've discovered (my truck has its VIN stamped there), this was by request of the CA DMV, and was only done on vehicles sold new in CA.

Some of these trucks have metal buck tags on the firewall, it depended on the assembly plant. Some do not have buck tags.

Under the front seat, (or the floor mats of some Standard Cabs) is where Ford stuck the build sheet, some remain today, most are history.

There's a metal tag on the left front hinge of the drivers seat. Good luck decoding it. It refers to the type of material, the type of seat, and what it was used on.

The seats were purchased by Ford from an outside supplier, the info on that seat tag could only be read by Ford.
I guess the proper name was "BUCK TAG"; I'm so sorry I didn't spend my life knowing the proper langauge and can only express what I learned or seen on trucks.
Thanks Bill for correcting me; that the greatness of your professional expertise verses my shade tree learning degree.

Mitch
 
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Old May 28, 2008 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Customcab
John; I wasn't questioning you; I just didn't know if there wasn't an option of two tone black & white. I learned a heckofa lot from you more than my pea-brain can handle.

Mitch
Mitch, I don't mind being questioned, I come here every day hoping to learn and pass along something I have learned. I went to night school so I can't read in the day time, and don't have big books to search through.


John
 
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Old May 28, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Mitch, I don't mind being questioned, I come here every day hoping to learn and pass along something I have learned. I went to night school so I can't read in the day time, and don't have big books to search through.John
Post #16, that info is from practical experience, mi amigo...not from any book. When one spends most of their life in the carbiz, info can be garnered elsewhere.

Besides 35 + years selling Ford parts, I also worked for my dad from the time I was 7 (initially washing cars at my dad's Olds dealership) and spent 2 summers and part of 1962 working at a Studebaker dealer...as a partsman, btw.

I learned to drive when I was 7, on a trade-in 1947 Chrysler Windsor with Clunk-O-Matic. My dad figured the car was junk, so I couldn't hurt it any more.
 
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Old May 28, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Bill...I have seen the new car temps on the lower RF of windshields in Ca alot...must be a cali. thing...in Wa you get a big temp...about 5X7 or so with a preassigned number on it and an expiration date...usually 30-60 days from purchase...on the reverse is the buyers personal info.

As for the buck tags...I had forgotten...I have one off of a 64 I parted out a long time ago...



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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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I recently bought a 64 Customcab and today; I removed the taillight lense & housing and lord behold a buck tag was attached (wired) to the upper housing screw attachment behind the housing. I've never seen one back there. I took pic's and will try and upload them soon.
Bill (Number Dummy) I'm not trying to be hard on your expertise just stating what I've been told. I've had several trucks ranging from 64 - 68 models and some have and some havn't had these buck tags. The trucks had a make shift tag, some even in the glove box with oem manuals.

Mitch
 
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