Injectors!
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Yes. It reduced EGT's 50-100 degrees and increases the size of the exhaust outlet 20-25%, and some of the drive pressure (which is a good thing, especially for PMR engines). Some people retain the EBPV and modify it to use an exhaust brake. If you don't plan to do this then I would remove it to help free up some of the restriction and flow the exhaust gasses better.
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And keep some money around for that Transmission, as you'll be needing it soon after these adders. All good stuff you're getting. You should be really happy with this setup.
I would add: do bellowed ceramic up pipes while doing the turbo
I would add: do bellowed ceramic up pipes while doing the turbo
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You're goin all out, eh? Why not add a set of ceramic coated bellowed up pipes to the list? I did that when i did the initial install of my TN bushed turbo last June, and the pipes themselves look NEW as the day i installed them. The cast collector and the exhaust housing (which i don't have anymore) are all a tad bit rusted, but the steel pipes still look new.
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Don't worry, your PMS (Powerstroke Mod Syndrome) has only just begun.
It gets, worse, much worse....... I'de be scared, very scared
Some say it's an addiction.......
Some say it's a way of life.......
Some say ** Holy Frack! look how much I spent the last few years! I could have bought a boat or a small island......**
It gets, worse, much worse....... I'de be scared, very scared
Some say it's an addiction.......
Some say it's a way of life.......
Some say ** Holy Frack! look how much I spent the last few years! I could have bought a boat or a small island......**
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Someone who has done the math or tested this may chime in, but that is my two cents.
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Jumbo shrimp hybrids man, remember? They flow 200cc's. Now it has been said that the stock units are good for up to 350, but I have yet to see that. So, 135-140cc's VS 160cc's VS 200cc's, and I made 399.99. I like to call it 400, but there are those that would get technical on me, so I did not make 400.
The point here is to do some quick math and you can draw a general conclusion of what is possible out of the injectors. Say for example, Rich AKA whitebuffalo is making around 350-360 with 175s and a van turbo. Do your homework. I would say PM me but we ought to keep it here for others to learn from and give input to.
Also lost here is how comparisons are done. Swamps flow tests theirs so I can go with those #s. Others are simply listed as stage 2s or ones, or B codes or whatever. Industrial, 530s etc.
The point here is to do some quick math and you can draw a general conclusion of what is possible out of the injectors. Say for example, Rich AKA whitebuffalo is making around 350-360 with 175s and a van turbo. Do your homework. I would say PM me but we ought to keep it here for others to learn from and give input to.
Also lost here is how comparisons are done. Swamps flow tests theirs so I can go with those #s. Others are simply listed as stage 2s or ones, or B codes or whatever. Industrial, 530s etc.
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Well after reading Beans website, he has two types of 1600cc single shots.
99-03 Injectors link
1) 160cc single shots with stock nozzles. 30-50 more HP than stock splits. So, with the right setup somewhere in the 350 range, since a hot tuned truck with stock injectors & some supporting mods runs around 310hp.
2) 160cc stage II's with modified nozzles. capable of 400 hp.
Was it the stage II's that you were looking into Jerid?
99-03 Injectors link
1) 160cc single shots with stock nozzles. 30-50 more HP than stock splits. So, with the right setup somewhere in the 350 range, since a hot tuned truck with stock injectors & some supporting mods runs around 310hp.
2) 160cc stage II's with modified nozzles. capable of 400 hp.
Was it the stage II's that you were looking into Jerid?
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Nothing wrong with that. Bean sells good injectors. I believe Casserly supplies them. Just giving you food for thought about what they are capable of. You should get better HP and MPGs with them.
If you have not ordered them yet, you may want to consider calling David at Swamps and discuss your situation.
You can always run a bigger injector in a truck with conservative tuning and turn it up occasionally. I don't drive around making 400 daily.
If you have not ordered them yet, you may want to consider calling David at Swamps and discuss your situation.
You can always run a bigger injector in a truck with conservative tuning and turn it up occasionally. I don't drive around making 400 daily.
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Yeah, the only difference to a stage two is that the nozzle is honed out a little bit to allow the fuel to dump in faster, and more of it. I doubt you are really even getting 160cc through a stock nozzle in 3ms.
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Hmmm, I am interested here. 160cc's is 160 cc's. If they flow more, then they wouldn't be 160s anymore now would they? Again, this injector stuff is cloudy at best, and that is why I like flow tested cc #s. I know it is on a bench and not in the truck but ya gotta have something. If Bean says they are capable of 400, then they probably are, somehow.