Tank Dipping
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From: Kearney, Nebr
The thing about the dye is that it will always be in the tank unless you completly drain the tank. It just keeps on getting more diluted turing into a faint pinkish color.
I was at a farm show some years back and the DOT had a booth talking about this topic. They had a certain ppm number I think that they would allow. I remember them saying that it was alright to put a little shot of off-road in your truck to get it to town or what not but to make sure it was almost empty before you filled it back up.
I was at a farm show some years back and the DOT had a booth talking about this topic. They had a certain ppm number I think that they would allow. I remember them saying that it was alright to put a little shot of off-road in your truck to get it to town or what not but to make sure it was almost empty before you filled it back up.
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One thing to consider is that there is enough dye in the fuel that it would take more then two fill-ups to eliminate it from being detected by the eyeball from that one fill up. In the USA you can be fined up to $25,000.00 for running off road fuel on the highway. I do know a couple of truckers that have tried it and they stopped because of the visible residual after one refill.
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I have run off road before and did actually pour some in my tank while a DOT person was watching. But that was when the truck was stalled in the middle of I-5 and I think all he was wanting me to do was be able to get off the freeway. Never really noticed any residual dye left in the filter though.
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From: North Pole Alaska
Thats doubtful.
So now DOT is going to pull someone driving a diesel pickup, dip there tank, not find anything, and stock fuel filters and rubber O-rings so they can change my fuel filter on the side of the road. Come on now
So now DOT is going to pull someone driving a diesel pickup, dip there tank, not find anything, and stock fuel filters and rubber O-rings so they can change my fuel filter on the side of the road. Come on now
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From: North Pole Alaska
Then in court they would have to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that you broke the spirit and "intent of the law". There are so many things that could be said in your defense to dimiss this. "The fuel was purchase by accident, or in an emergent situation, or unknowingly...or how about home make diesel, one could say it just came out of the tank that way....."
The maximum fine is 25,000. Courts do not generally deal out maximum punishments for first offenses. 25,000 (I suspect) would be the fine a large trucking company would pay if they got caught in a violation.
I suspect there are alot of folks on this thread who have been dipped that were in a commercial setting. But to apply this hysteria, to personal use in pick-up trucks is just plain silly. Or to say they are going to search as far as to remove the fuel filter. You guys are killing me.
The maximum fine is 25,000. Courts do not generally deal out maximum punishments for first offenses. 25,000 (I suspect) would be the fine a large trucking company would pay if they got caught in a violation.
I suspect there are alot of folks on this thread who have been dipped that were in a commercial setting. But to apply this hysteria, to personal use in pick-up trucks is just plain silly. Or to say they are going to search as far as to remove the fuel filter. You guys are killing me.
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I bet DOT wouldn't pull over a pick up unless you were hauling heavy euipment with it. I don't mean like toy hauler or anything but like a back hoe or dozer and that kinda stuff and guys that have auxilary tanks in there bed. I bet a just a diesel pick up going down the road they wouldn't pull over just to dip the tank. Thats just my guess. I don't know for sure though or anything.
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From: North Pole Alaska
yep. its all about the money. There is no big money loss when its personal use. Fuel tax loss is minimal. They are looking for the commercial guys who should and most do pay $10000 plus a year in road taxes
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They are probably more likely to check trucks whose operators are percieved to have easy access to dyed fuel, example;
Line of pickups at a state park, less likely.
Line of pickups at a livestock auction, more likely.
Line of pickups at a state park, less likely.
Line of pickups at a livestock auction, more likely.
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From: Kearney, Nebr
LOL. That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Good luck on that happening. Especially for the rigs that are required to be primed.
Remember fellas, in most cases, the person running cherry is turned in by someone else. So be careful when you fill up.
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Once again if you have a locking cap no one is going to sneak up on you.
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I remember a local report a few years back and they were saying that the DOT was doing checks on a road in the pickup truck crowd. The ones they were flagging had transfer tanks in the bed of the truck. They were not bothering those without the extra tanks as they were only going with the obvious ones that probably had access to the cheap stuff.
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