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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 04:03 AM
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Red face E-85 fuel

I passed a gasoline station/BANK and there was a fellow pumping e-85 in his older Dodge truck. Could this be used in my 2002 e-150 Triton without any problems?

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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Don't do it unless the vehicle is specifically designated a "flex-fuel vehicle". It won't run right and there are a number of expensive parts you can fry. I'm sure there are quite a few discussions about this in the alternative fuels forum here.

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Unless the guy covertered his truck to run on e85, he will regret doing that.

Your 5.4 would run way too lean on e85. Also, the alcohol can damage some components in the, gasoline only, fuel system.

Even if you converted the vehicle to run on e85, which is cheaper, the benefits are not what you think. This is because the BTU content of e85 is significantly less than regular gasoline. Because of this, the engine won't make as much horsepower and your fuel mileage will go down.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Mileage down, but horsepower can go up...

Originally Posted by Clubwagon
Unless the guy covertered his truck to run on e85, he will regret doing that.

Your 5.4 would run way too lean on e85. Also, the alcohol can damage some components in the, gasoline only, fuel system.

Even if you converted the vehicle to run on e85, which is cheaper, the benefits are not what you think. This is because the BTU content of e85 is significantly less than regular gasoline. Because of this, the engine won't make as much horsepower and your fuel mileage will go down.
In an engine properly designed for E85 (and a conversion to an existing vehicle might not end up being properly designed), you will definitely lose fuel mileage because of the lower BTU content, but E85 has 3-5 more octane than gasoline. So, if the engine is tuned to take advantage of that octane, you can get more power out of it.

http://www.api.org/aboutoilgas/other..._May_16_06.pdf

Indy cars and alcohol dragsters can make a bit of power....

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Yes, you can make power with alcohol. Its a popular racing fuel because you can run very high octane and thus burn alot more fuel and that makes more power. Yet the engine runs cooler and is less likely to knock and damage itself.

I am very familiar with alcohol as a racing fuel. I have been involved in racing for more than 25 years. And for what its worth the American LeMans series is running a number of its entrants on E85 this year.

http://www.americanlemans.com/News/Article.aspx?ID=4034
 
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Interesting....

Originally Posted by Clubwagon
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I am very familiar with alcohol as a racing fuel. I have been involved in racing for more than 25 years. And for what its worth the American LeMans series is running a number of its entrants on E85 this year.

http://www.americanlemans.com/News/Article.aspx?ID=4034
My wife was reading something the other week where someone had an alcohol-powered car and they were boasting about it being a "vegetarian" vehicle.

My wife quipped that it was not so much a vegetarian as an alcoholic 8-)
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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On a side note, with all of the current interest in alternative fuels.... Biodiesel is becoming quite popular with some poeple refining their own fuel at home. These people are going to be in for a shock when the IRS nails them for using non-taxed fuel on federal highways.

The Fed takes that VERY seriously.
 
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