Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

tranny swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:44 PM
  #1  
hotrod 250's Avatar
hotrod 250
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Question tranny swap

whats the major diff between the 5r110 and the 4r100 transmission.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:51 PM
  #2  
Izzy351's Avatar
Izzy351
Post Fiend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14,541
Likes: 2
From: Dallas-Ft. Worth
5 speeds instead of 4, stronger, requires SW only the 6.0s have, very difficult and probably overly costly to try and stick in a 7.3. You could probably get a BTS 4r100 cheaper than it would be to get the tranny and make all the mods to get it to work...
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 07:00 PM
  #3  
SolidGround's Avatar
SolidGround
Elder User
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 889
Likes: 2
From: I'm there!
It'll go right in, for the most part... as for the electronics, good luck.

I'm with Joe here, too much trouble than it'll ever be worth.

The 5r110 is a POS. Five forward gears are nice, though.

Brian (BTS) has toyed a little with the 5r110 but there's NO comparing a 'modified' version of the 4r100, not Brian's anyway.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 07:59 PM
  #4  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,714
Likes: 2,640
From: SE Florida
Originally Posted by SolidGround
It'll go right in, for the most part...
Except that the bolt pattern is different and it won't bolt to a 7.3L.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:21 PM
  #5  
Markadeck's Avatar
Markadeck
Gone, but not forgotten
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,026
Likes: 2
From: Charlotte-Fairbanks-Bflo
Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Except that the bolt pattern is different and it won't bolt to a 7.3L.
Can we blame the Ford transmission engineering part of the corporation for the 4R100? I'm on my 3rd one of these jokes and not real happy about it. I would like nothing better than to be able to put something a lot better in, but just don't have the money for it. What was their thinking at the time to put this junk behind maybe the best engine they have ever offered?
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:32 PM
  #6  
nhill2090's Avatar
nhill2090
Posting Guru
15 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,905
Likes: 2
From: East Peoria, IL
Originally Posted by Markadeck
Can we blame the Ford transmission engineering part of the corporation for the 4R100? I'm on my 3rd one of these jokes and not real happy about it. I would like nothing better than to be able to put something a lot better in, but just don't have the money for it. What was their thinking at the time to put this junk behind maybe the best engine they have ever offered?

i personally believe anyone with tuners/programmers cant complain about the trannys..putting in a chip you are willingly taking the risk of destroying parts not designed to take the extra HP you are putting to them

gotta pay to play.



oh, and i bet a BTS trans would be worth the cost of 2-3 cheap rebuilds.
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 12:00 AM
  #7  
UP_There's Avatar
UP_There
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,613
Likes: 9
From: Flagstaff, Arizona
I have read on here before that installing the Torqshift 5R100 into an earlier powerstroke is next to impossible due to computer/electronic issues. The bolt pattern doesn't match up either, but I'm sure that could be overcome alot easier then installing an entirely different PCM to match up to the better tranny. I have read nothing but good things about the Torqshift, it's FAR SUPERIOR then our 4R100 tranny. We just have to pay some $$$ to beef it up beyond Torqshift standards with BTS....John Wood....etc.
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 12:06 AM
  #8  
lostmybeer's Avatar
lostmybeer
Have a nice Beer!!!
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,024
Likes: 1
From: WA Resident
Anyone have a phone # or website for John Wood?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-2

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-4

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-8

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:27 PM
  #9  
rbaker6336's Avatar
rbaker6336
Post Fiend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,191
Likes: 4
From: Blairsville,Ga
Originally Posted by lostmybeer
Anyone have a phone # or website for John Wood?
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>366 Maple Avenue </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Holtville </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>California </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>92250 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left width=40> </TD><TD>(760) 356-9421

http://jwtt.com/home/index.php

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 05:27 PM
  #10  
lostmybeer's Avatar
lostmybeer
Have a nice Beer!!!
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,024
Likes: 1
From: WA Resident
Thanks, Ray.
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 09:46 PM
  #11  
sflem849's Avatar
sflem849
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,730
Likes: 0
From: SE Wisco
Originally Posted by nhill2090
i personally believe anyone with tuners/programmers cant complain about the trannys..putting in a chip you are willingly taking the risk of destroying parts not designed to take the extra HP you are putting to them

gotta pay to play.



oh, and i bet a BTS trans would be worth the cost of 2-3 cheap rebuilds.
Too bad Mark isn't running a chip!!! j/k Mark. I know you are saving for a DP
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:43 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-3
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE