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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jroehl
I'm going off what I see in old film of pitchers from the '30s and '40s. There's no way they're throwing 85 MPH fastballs, let alone 90, 95 or 100 MPH. Along with that, I bet the speeds on curveballs and sliders is significantly higher, too.

I think that Ruth, as a functioning alcoholic, would be severely embarrassed by one of today's pitchers. I bet even a HS pitcher would give him a run for his money....
A decent HS pitcher is throwing 80 mph - easy. Heck, I threw 82-83 and I didn't even pitch. Exceptional HS pitchers are throwing 85-90 mph, with that 'one in a five hundred' throwing 95. Informal training in pitching mechanics can gain you an average of 2 to 4 mph. Formal training (Major League style) can add 2 or 3 more to this, if not more. Given the fact that HS pitchers are most likely the same today as they were 70 years ago, I believe the 95 mph fastball was around back then too. IMO however, unless it's a 100+ mph heater (and very few Major League pitchers have one), this fastball argument is irrelevant, as the typical fastball, which is typically thrown in a 'hitters pitch' count (2-0, 3-1, 3-0), is the easiest pitch to hit of all. Just spare me that knuckle ball or that strategically timed change-up.


Originally Posted by jroehl
....The reason pitchers can't throw 120 times per game now is that their strength of motion has exceeded the anatomy--they're ripping their arms apart with their throws. The overall pitching motion is more efficient and refined as well....
I believe they don't throw 120 pitches in a game because they don't have to. Most Major League pitching cores are very deep. Pitchers tend to start tiring at about the 80 pitch mark. It doesn't mean that they're done, it just becomes apparent, at least to the coaching staff, that their efficiency starts to drop. And according to this same staff; when you got five fresh guys in the pen behind him, why screw around? However, how many times have we seen a reliever(s) come in to only do worse, and wish they would just put the starter back in?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by freirefishing
As Rep. Waxman was speaking, Clemens looked him right in the eye, while McNamee looked everywhere but at that podium.

But as McNamee spoke, Clemens looked straight down at the floor, as if he were trying to make himself believe this man wasn't even speaking.
Put them together, side-by-side, and start asking them the questions.......with one caveat.

Have them each hooked up to individual lie detectors and see which one starts to move the ink pens the quickest and hardest. After all, Clemons said on 60 Minutes that he would take part of that. If anybody objects......well, then you know who has something to hide.

Congress really doesn't care. They just want the drama to get reelected.
Everyone in that room was a big phoney.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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we all know the most important thing on everyone's mind and the most important thing going on in america today is the crisis that some millionaire game players used some drugs.

i for one am very happy and releived that congress is investigating this and saving the USA. congress shows all americans that they are getting thier money's worth out of congress.
 
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