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Originally Posted by Big Bad
I say they are low impact because I don't remember them just minutes after I see them. The Tundra ads are pretty hard to forget, as are Ford bed bolt ads (and new towing hook ads).
8 mpg city might be another reason why their sales are bad.
8 mpg city might be another reason why their sales are bad.
And being an Ozzie fan; the Titan off roading with Ironman blaring in the background left an impression.....Bill's reply will be he's never heard of Ozzie.
Then again, I recall the F-150 ads where a truck is jumping through a birthday cake.......
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
Urban legend has it Nissan dropped the towing ads because the Dana 44 rears were so fragile......don't shoot the messenger.
1949/56 Ford and Merc passenger cars used Dana 44's, so did all the 1951/56 F100's, and the Dana 44 continued to be used on some 1957 thru 1979 F100/150's. It was also used as a front axle on F100/250 4WD's for decades.
The 2004/2005 Titan Dana 44 version used cast spider and axle gears..a horrible idea = they tended to strip badly. The original plan was to use Dana 60's, but Renault killed the 60's for cost reasons.
The Titan has 291 dyno'd RWHP...too much for the Dana to handle. Then consider who buys Titans...many are mod happy, speed freak lead footed young 'uns.
The rear ends were improved for model year 2006...but it's still weak, compared to the rest of the drivetrain.
EDIT:
You are correct, Jack...I have no klew who Ozzie is...unless you're speaking of Ozzie Nelson...someone who was famous once (a big band leader and the star of the Ozzie and Harriet TV show). I doubt that too many ppl here on FTE ever heard of Ozzie Nelson!
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Fragile? Hmmm...not all versions were...
1949/56 Ford and Merc passenger cars used Dana 44's, so did all the 1951/56 F100's, and the Dana 44 continued to be used on some 1957 thru 1979 F100/150's. It was also used as a front axle on F100/250 4WD's for decades.
1949/56 Ford and Merc passenger cars used Dana 44's, so did all the 1951/56 F100's, and the Dana 44 continued to be used on some 1957 thru 1979 F100/150's. It was also used as a front axle on F100/250 4WD's for decades.
But NONE of those were rated to tow close to 1OK.....the 9" was most certainly used in the bigger V8 1/2 tons.
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The 2004/2005 Titan Dana 44 version used cast spider and axle gears..a horrible idea = they tended to strip badly. The original plan was to use Dana 60's, but Renault killed the 60's for cost reasons.
The Titan has 291 dyno'd RWHP...too much for the Dana to handle. Then consider who buys Titans...many are mod happy, speed freak lead footed young 'uns.
The rear ends were improved for model year 2006...but it's still weak, compared to the rest of the drivetrain.
Bill, I totally understand/agree........and that is one of the reasons I cite for the Titan's poor acceptability.
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
EDIT: LOL You are correct, Jack...I have no klew who Ozzie is...unless you're speaking of Ozzie Nelson...someone who was famous once (a big band leader and the star of the Ozzie and Harriet TV show).
I doubt that too many ppl here on FTE ever heard of Ozzie Nelson!
I doubt that too many ppl here on FTE ever heard of Ozzie Nelson!
It's intersting to note that maybe the reason you don't acknowledge the Nissan ads is they were not geared for your demographics....
Of course everyone knows Ozzie Nelson.....he spawned Ricky Nelson (a sorta rock star BTW) who, rumor has it, started the fire in the plane that crashed killing him......damn rock stars cannot figure out how to light a crack pipe!!! LOL!!!
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Originally Posted by Big Bad
8 mpg city might be another reason why their sales are bad.
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
It's interesting to note that maybe the reason you don't acknowledge the Nissan ads is they were not geared for your demographics....
Of course everyone knows Ozzie Nelson.....he spawned Ricky Nelson (a sorta rock star BTW) who, rumor has it, started the fire in the plane that crashed killing him......damn rock stars cannot figure out how to light a crack pipe!!! LOL!!!
Of course everyone knows Ozzie Nelson.....he spawned Ricky Nelson (a sorta rock star BTW) who, rumor has it, started the fire in the plane that crashed killing him......damn rock stars cannot figure out how to light a crack pipe!!! LOL!!!
Everyone knows who Ozzie Nelson is? How old are you Jack...50 something? I doubt that too many ppl here even remember Ricky!Ricky Nelson...AFAIK....free basing is what started the fire in the plane.
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Quite true...I don't watch the same shows most ppl do, so I don't see the Titan film ads...but where are the magazine ads? As stated, between the "war department" and myself, we get around 30 magazines a month. I haven't seen a Titan or Armada print ad since 2004.
Well, Just for grins and giggles I looked at my March issues of Road & Track and Motor Trend:
They both had 0 Titan OR Tundra ads....
However, they both had 1) Infinity ad.....1) Murano ad.....and 1) Altima ad.
Both contained 1) Corolla ad...and that's it for Toyota.
Kinda strange that Toy ads didn't flood the Motor Trend mag considering that was the only way they were able to win TOTY.
Also strange that Nissan had 3:1 more ads than Toy.
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Everyone knows who Ozzie Nelson is? How old are you Jack...50 something? I doubt that too many ppl here even remember Ricky!
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Ricky Nelson...AFAIK....free basing is what started the fire in the plane.
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Originally Posted by BirdmanStyll
yeah, that edge is nice thow
Why; because it's a Ford???
(even thow(sic) it has more Mazda DNA than Ford)
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
And being an Ozzie fan; the Titan off roading with Ironman blaring in the background left an impression.....Bill's reply will be he's never heard of Ozzie.
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
Why; because it's a Ford???
(even thow(sic) it has more Mazda DNA than Ford)
(even thow(sic) it has more Mazda DNA than Ford)
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Originally Posted by Big Bad
The Edge IS nice, and it does not have more Mazda DNA than Ford. The Edge is based on a modified version of the Ford Fusion platform, which itself is based on a modified and enlarged version of the Mazda 6 platform. The Mazda 6 is moving over to the Fusion's enlarged platform with their new model.
ummmmm..........OK
Key word is they are ALL based on the "MAZDA" 6 platform.
And being that our MKZ is on the same architecture, there's nothing wrong with that.
I have no opinion one way or the other concerning the Edge......I have just read that it is an overweight crossover that comes up short in most comparisons.
(OK, I lied.....I do have an opinion: I think the Edge AND the MKX are butt ugly)
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
Thanks Bill.................Honestly don't know the diff between free basing and smoking crack; I'm sure you'll let us know.
All I remember is what the FAA said caused the fire.
btw: I don't read Road & Track, and haven't since John Bond sold the rag to a new owner...something like 20 years ago.
Outside of Motor Trend, which I've subscribed to since 1955, and Automotive News (a subscriber since 1967)...most of the car mags I get are old car related.
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