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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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It is not the cost, it is the lousy pay for the first half of your career.
How long does it take to get good pay?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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There are a lot of variables, but most of the guys I know it takes more than 10yrs before they start making a decent living. Of course there are exceptions.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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When I graduate I'll have put forth roughly 35-55 grand, depending on how fast I progress. That puts me with a Commercial License with Instrument Rating, Single and Multi-engine land ratings, and both flight instructor ratings, with roughly 300 hours of flight time. In this day and age, that will get you a regional airline job (scary, huh?).

Our flight instructors make $25 per flight hour, and $15 per hour of duty time or ground school taught.

Pilots for part 135/121 (regional/airline, respectively) operators are limited to 100 flight hours per month, or 1000 flight hours per year. Most will of course shoot for 1000 flight hours per year since the pay, and flight time, is maxed that way.

Intro level regional airlines start around 23-26 per hour, so figure 23,000-26,000 pre-taxes. Retirement wages are highly dependent on aircraft type flown. An American Airlines 777 Captain with at least 12 years makes $199 per hour. When FedEx introduces the A380, a retiring A380 captain with at least 15 years will make $248 per hour. The worst part is the first few years, then the pay increases fairly dramatically, of course that depends on the individual airline however. Many pilots get screwed by staying First Officers for a while, then bumping up to Captain and actually taking a pay cut.

It's an interesting business to be in, to say the least. For what it's worth, I wouldn't trade it for the world.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RangerPilot
When I graduate I'll have put forth roughly 35-55 grand, depending on how fast I progress. That puts me with a Commercial License with Instrument Rating, Single and Multi-engine land ratings, and both flight instructor ratings, with roughly 300 hours of flight time. In this day and age, that will get you a regional airline job (scary, huh?).

Our flight instructors make $25 per flight hour, and $15 per hour of duty time or ground school taught.

Pilots for part 135/121 (regional/airline, respectively) operators are limited to 100 flight hours per month, or 1000 flight hours per year. Most will of course shoot for 1000 flight hours per year since the pay, and flight time, is maxed that way.

Intro level regional airlines start around 23-26 per hour, so figure 23,000-26,000 pre-taxes. Retirement wages are highly dependent on aircraft type flown. An American Airlines 777 Captain with at least 12 years makes $199 per hour. When FedEx introduces the A380, a retiring A380 captain with at least 15 years will make $248 per hour. The worst part is the first few years, then the pay increases fairly dramatically, of course that depends on the individual airline however. Many pilots get screwed by staying First Officers for a while, then bumping up to Captain and actually taking a pay cut.

It's an interesting business to be in, to say the least. For what it's worth, I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Damn thats basically two tanks of gas for the ex for an hour of work. Not bad
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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We have a professor here who has a friend who's one of United Air Lines' top 747 Captains. He does the San Francisco - Beijing route, which is roughly 12 hours each way.

He does the route four times a month and has pretty much maxed his flight hours out. He works 8 days per month.

Not a bad life, I must say.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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I hope they have the same policy or somthing very similar because that seems pretty easy. Is their any state where u have to retake the test everytime u renew?
Yes, In NC you have to take the signs test everytime!!
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Hey Nick,

it looks GREAT!!!!!!

Now come and set them up in my truck will ya???
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Yes, In NC you have to take the signs test everytime!!
That sucks big time, have u ever failed retaking it?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RangerPilot
We have a professor here who has a friend who's one of United Air Lines' top 747 Captains. He does the San Francisco - Beijing route, which is roughly 12 hours each way.

He does the route four times a month and has pretty much maxed his flight hours out. He works 8 days per month.

Not a bad life, I must say.
how long has he been working for? And how many flyin hours a month can he get?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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how long has he been working for? And how many flyin hours a month can he get?
He's been working at United for the last 20-some-odd years. He only flies I think 96 a month, whatever his trips work out to, since he can't do more than 100 per month and the shortest 747 flight that United flies is longer than 4 hours. He does pretty good for himself I'd say. I just think I'd get bored.

I like challenges, windy landings, bad weather, the fun stuff.

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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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[QUOTE=RangerPilot]He's been working at United for the last 20-some-odd years. He only flies I think 96 a month, whatever his trips work out to, since he can't do more than 100 per month and the shortest 747 flight that United flies is longer than 4 hours. He does pretty good for himself I'd say. I just think I'd get bored.

I like challenges, windy landings, bad weather, the fun stuff.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LoZtQy-QW4o
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-5v-I4Dw9VY[/QUOTE]

That sucks that he cant work more then 96 hours a month. Just imagine how much free time that he has on his hand. He can easly start his own business or somthin
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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I know. I'm not sure I could do that...having that much time off per month is a little excessive in my opinion...I'd go insane with boredom, I already can't stand sitting around here during the day between classes, flying, and work.
 
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Hey Nick,

it looks GREAT!!!!!!

Now come and set them up in my truck will ya???
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tell you what u by the gauges and I will install them for free at galtinburg
 
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