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Either our or 5.4l or V10 both will be good for daily driving they wont get good mpgs thats for sure but iam sure they will get similar to eachother the 5.4l may get a tad bit better diesel is an option would be nice but extra mainteince expense etc
I dont care if I never had a load on my pickup I would always opt for the diesel if I could. The type power they deliver is not matched by any gas motor. The psd just cruises w/ ease at whatever speed you want. Rarely shifts down going up hills and handling on icy roads(was reminded of this today) is unmatched due to the low end torque.
I could be a little bias though, every 3/4 ton or larger pickup (and SUV) I have had since our 88 7.3 has been a diesel.
I could be a little bias though, every 3/4 ton or larger pickup (and SUV) I have had since our 88 7.3 has been a diesel.
I've never owned anything other then diesels, however, even though I think they blow all the other engines away, I don't really won't to have to compete with other people for fuel when they don't need a diesel other then they want it. I have lost money by not being able to haul horses to shows because I couldn't fill up with diesel any where close and I actually had to call before I drove to the station to make sure that they had diesel before I wasted a trip out there. So for me to advocate diesel there is also a catch-22 involved. Such is life.
I dont care if I never had a load on my pickup I would always opt for the diesel if I could. The type power they deliver is not matched by any gas motor. The psd just cruises w/ ease at whatever speed you want. Rarely shifts down going up hills and handling on icy roads(was reminded of this today) is unmatched due to the low end torque.
I could be a little bias though, every 3/4 ton or larger pickup (and SUV) I have had since our 88 7.3 has been a diesel.
You realize my stock 2005+ V10 has more horsepower AND rear wheel torque than your 7.3 (if it's stock)?
Oh, maybe I'm a little biased too boxcar? Really though, I just thought this part, "The type power they deliver is not matched by any gas motor." was wrong and should be righted, that's all. At least what I posted was fact...right, and not subjective?
You realize my stock 2005+ V10 has more horsepower AND rear wheel torque than your 7.3 (if it's stock)?
However, it does not have the up on the stock torque of a 6litre and the horspower is negligible because when it comes down to it, if a person shelled out the extra dough to get the diesel then it's nothing for a tuner to get that person well over the v10s hp rating and it would take a lot more add on for the v10 to catch up then just a tuner with that diesel. Man I love these diesel v. gas threads.
Oh, maybe I'm a little biased too boxcar? Really though, I just thought this part, "The type power they deliver is not matched by any gas motor." was wrong and should be righted, that's all. At least what I posted was fact...right, and not subjective?
Actually the reason I said "type of power" was the fact that someone would say as you have. The low rpm torque of a diesel is what I meant by type of power. Every v10 and 5.4 I have driven like running much higher rpms for power, that's why you probably have 4.30 gears. You need that motor to get to a higher rpm to make the power.
But Tex, I was responding to a specific quote. If I had a 6.4 my stock power would best the V10, the 5.4, the 6.0 the 7.3 and a host of other vehicles out there. Point is, mudmaker made a specific comment that leads people to believe that diesel trucks have more power than gas trucks, which some do and some don't.
And, Mudmaker, what's the difference what RPM range it is that the power is made if we're pulling the same grade with the same load? There is no disadvantage to a gas engine running at 4000+ rpm when a diesel is running at 2500 rpm (or whatever the difference is), because it's part of the overall design.
I'm not trying to make this gas v diesel, just call out a particular or specific comment that I think is a generalization that may or may not be true.
The difference is how hard you have to work the motor to get the power! I was simply stating what I like about the type of power a diesel delivers. I know your v10 will make the power , I just like the power and torque curve the diesel offers. And like I said pulling a load or empty I like power a diesel delivers.
I figured I was wording it in a way as not to offend the gassers, but maybe that is impossible.
Thanks to everybody who posted. I didn't mean to start a diesel versus gas argument with anybody so I apologize for that. The truck will not be driven everyday, due to the fact that I have a take home car.
I will probably stick with a gas engine. I was thinking V10, but I have never driven one. I have driven a 2000 F-250 with a diesel motor. Ran very well (especially for having over 300,000 miles on it), but it had a Edge chip and an exhaust.
Well thanks again....I think I will just drive each of the different motors and then make my decision.
One thing to take into consideration is not only how you will use it now but what you might do with it in 5 or 10 years down the road. I got my F-350 with the 6.0 as a replacement for my '87 F-150. Do I need it, heck no, not for what I do with it now. BUT... two years ago I took the family to the camper show and we saw a nice TT that may or may not ever happen. It was 9600# dry weight and the F-250 had a max tow rating of 10K. If I ever get a TT or 5er I will be able to tow it without any worries. If I had just replaced my old truck with another F-150 then I'd need to get another truck before I could even think about a camper like that...
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