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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Regulated Return - Fuel Mod

Has anyone installed the fuel return kit to help maintain proper fuel presure on all injector?

This sytem creates a constant loop through the fuel rails in each cylendar head to keep fuel pressure the same on all injectors of the 6.0L

Is it worth the money?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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Quite a few folks here have installed them. I have seen no-one say it wasn't worth the money. These 6.0L fuel systems can be damaged by low pressure. The ITP Return regulated fuel system is a very good product. It is high on my list for future mods (right behind gages).
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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It is worth the money rather your using stock or aftermarket injectors. Aftermarket injectors might be able to sustain a little longer period of fuel pressure loss then stock, but I would still get it. I would also recommend getting a fuel pressure gauge for in the cab readings as the one that comes with the regulator is a mechanical one that just plugs into the regulator itself.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Once you set/verify the pressure output on the regulator there is no real need for another gauge. 50psi is what has been recommended; set it and forget it.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Once you set/verify the pressure output on the regulator there is no real need for another gauge. 50psi is what has been recommended; set it and forget it.
Nope, if your using the stock fuel pump, you won't know if your taxin it beyond what it can handle. I had to upgrade to the FASS system because I saw a drop in fuel pressure, something I would not have known had I not installed a gauge in the cab, as the gauge that comes with it is under the hood. Makes it kinda hard to see what the pressure is while your driving. To me I would consider that a "real reason" to have the gauge in the cab, but then again that's just me. Also ITP recommends 60psi not 50.
 

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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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It is worth the money rather your using stock or aftermarket injectors. Aftermarket injectors might be able to sustain a little longer period of fuel pressure loss then stock, but I would still get it. I would also recommend getting a fuel pressure gauge for in the cab readings as the one that comes with the regulator is a mechanical one that just plugs into the regulator itself.
actually no. there are no "aftermarket" injectors for us. they are all stock injectors that have been modified and have different nozzles on them. and after spending the money for them, i definitely wouldn't wanna run them low.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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actually no. there are no "aftermarket" injectors for us. they are all stock injectors that have been modified and have different nozzles on them. and after spending the money for them, i definitely wouldn't wanna run them low.
Well yea, I knew that(although I couldn't expect you to know that I knew that because that isn't what I said).
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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Once you set/verify the pressure output on the regulator there is no real need for another gauge. 50psi is what has been recommended; set it and forget it.
actually there IS the need for a gauge. especially with larger injectors and aggressive programming. the stock pump will not keep up with large injectors under full load. my fuel pressure gauge went to ZERO when we dynoed the truck w/stock fuel pump. ford recomends at least 40psi minimum to prevent injector damage. you NEED to be able to monitor fuel pressure if you are making enough HP to turn heads
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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Once you set/verify the pressure output on the regulator there is no real need for another gauge. 50psi is what has been recommended; set it and forget it.
nope nope.. the pressure readings will vary each time you adjust the regulator until you get it to a happy medium, especially when trying to combine the regulated return system with a fass system which has a bypass port and you need to make sure that both systems are bypassing equally to keep fuel flow constant.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LvTitan
actually there IS the need for a gauge. especially with larger injectors and aggressive programming. the stock pump will not keep up with large injectors under full load. my fuel pressure gauge went to ZERO when we dynoed the truck w/stock fuel pump. ford recomends at least 40psi minimum to prevent injector damage. you NEED to be able to monitor fuel pressure if you are making enough HP to turn heads
Mine never go that low, but they did get down to 25, but my injectors are not as big as yours are as well. I believe that would play into it.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Nope, if your using the stock fuel pump, you won't know if your taxin it beyond what it can handle. I had to upgrade to the FASS system because I saw a drop in fuel pressure, something I would not have known had I not installed a gauge in the cab, as the gauge that comes with it is under the hood. Makes it kinda hard to see what the pressure is while your driving. To me I would consider that a "real reason" to have the gauge in the cab, but then again that's just me. Also ITP recommends 60psi not 50.
i'd listen to this guy... i too had to upgrade to fass150/180 due to fuel pressure issues w/larger injectors. i had to do MANY modifications to my fass also to make it work properly. these mods are all detailed in my other forum.
www.southernnevadapowerstrokes.org
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Why compare apples to oranges? OF course you would need a FASS/AIRDOG to help with larger injectors. My post was focused on the stock system running a RR fuel system. I'd doubt there's a need to run 60PSI on stock injectors even while using an SCT.
While the orginal post wasn't clear as to the current truck configuration we have covered both possibilities here now.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyAssault
I'd doubt there's a need to run 60PSI on stock injectors even while using an SCT.
Actually in my ITP installation guide they made no distinction between running stock injectors or modified injectors or rather or not your running a tuner.
 

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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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We all have different thoughts on what pressure to run.

See pg. 9

http://www.atsdiesel.com/PDF/120505/...tem_STAGE2.pdf
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyAssault
We all have different thoughts on what pressure to run.

See pg. 9

http://www.atsdiesel.com/PDF/120505/Ford_60_Fuel_System_STAGE2.pdf
That is true on the thoughts. Up until now I hadn't seen an ATS RR kit, this is the first time that I've seen that(of course, after I saw what they were asking for their turbos when I was looking at them, they were vastly higher then others that had good solid reputations as well), I was only familiar with ITP's kit. The might have differences due to differences in the kit, that I don't know. You could always split the difference and do 55.
 
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