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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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check engine light on and a newbie

hi everyone. i am new to this forum so please bear with me. i recently bought a automatic 2000 ford explorer with the SOHC 4.0. it has 119,000 miles on it and has not given me any problems until recently. the check engine light came on so scanned it and came up with 6 codes. 3 of them read PO171 and the other 3 read PO174. thePO171 code says bank 1 is lean and the PO174 code says bank 2 is lean. i replaced the mass airflow sensor thinking, "what is the probability of both O2 sensors going at the same time." after a week the check engine light came back on. please help me out because i do not want to bring to the dealer. should i replace the o2 sensors, or can it be something stupid?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Check for air leaks, intake manifold, vacuum hoses
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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I believe it could also be faulty or sticking injectors. I would buy a bottle of the good fuel system cleaner and run it through because it's the cheapest fix (besides loose vacuum hoses) if it works.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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Leaks are the most likely issue, but if the engine has run rich for an extended period of time, the O@ sensors get carbon build up on the elements, and that will cause them to read lean.

Run some Seafoam through the system, and look for intake leaks. It is common for that engine to leak around the intake gaskets. If the O2 sensors have never been replaced, they probably should be for good measure, but you really need to make sure they are not intake or vacuum leaks. Those will cause a false lean that will make the truck run rich.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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thanks for the reply's. i also tryed doing the fuel system cleaner but did not work. today i checked for vaccum leaks for a while and could not find any, but that doesnt mean there are not any. i suspect that will be the issue though so i will search "seafoam" in the forums and see how that works. ill keep posted.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Lower intake gaskets is a common problem on this engine.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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You could try to find a shop that has a smoke test machine. A smoke test could help isolate any leaks with amazing accuracy, including leaks you could not otherwise see or hear.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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turned out to be lower intake gasket like everyone said. just thought i should let anyone know who has this problem in the future. thanks everyone
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by scrappa1223
turned out to be lower intake gasket like everyone said. just thought i should let anyone know who has this problem in the future. thanks everyone
Thanks for closing this thread.. many just leave us hanging out to dry...

FWIW: How was it located?
 
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