100 MPG Excursion. Is this possible?
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 706
Likes: 0
From: Montreal,Canada
I gave up on meeting with Igotoneforya. I really thought the A/F was the answer to the "why does it work".
Although, I didn't loose HP Igotoneforya.
Hey, with the current price of gas down to $1.61 in my area, the 33% gains isn't as impressive. The HAFC did get me through a rough gas price spike, but I'm not very conserned with MPG now.
I think I'm going to shut it off and put it on the shelf for now, maybe switch over to some HO parts.
Although, I didn't loose HP Igotoneforya.
Hey, with the current price of gas down to $1.61 in my area, the 33% gains isn't as impressive. The HAFC did get me through a rough gas price spike, but I'm not very conserned with MPG now.
I think I'm going to shut it off and put it on the shelf for now, maybe switch over to some HO parts.
Cheap gas = cheap expenses to develope your system and be ready for price hikes.
We're all waiting?
C'mon,what you say about that?
Freshman User
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
orng1: What is your MPG with the system, 100mpg maybe 80mpg?
no, I was getting 31-33mpg at peak. I would have to do something wild to get the 100mpg. I think the 100mpg+ is the PICC deal. I've been playing with the concept of the PICC in my shop with small engines, but I really haven't had enough time to do much with it. I would like to have one installed on my truck regardless of the gas prices.
zbigbig19th:
What do you suggest for R&D? I'm all for playing with the system if there is a good direction you looking to go. I don't think there is much room for improvement though. It make a combustable gas, modifies the computer signels, leans out A/F and gives me 150% better MPG. What else can be done? I'm looking more towards the PICC. Maybe make one to fit my generator. The generator (electrical type) runs for 13hrs on 5 gal in stock configuration. If the picc really works, it could run 10 times as long or more. That would be very interesting and I wouldn't be messing with my truck until it was perfected.
no, I was getting 31-33mpg at peak. I would have to do something wild to get the 100mpg. I think the 100mpg+ is the PICC deal. I've been playing with the concept of the PICC in my shop with small engines, but I really haven't had enough time to do much with it. I would like to have one installed on my truck regardless of the gas prices.
zbigbig19th:
What do you suggest for R&D? I'm all for playing with the system if there is a good direction you looking to go. I don't think there is much room for improvement though. It make a combustable gas, modifies the computer signels, leans out A/F and gives me 150% better MPG. What else can be done? I'm looking more towards the PICC. Maybe make one to fit my generator. The generator (electrical type) runs for 13hrs on 5 gal in stock configuration. If the picc really works, it could run 10 times as long or more. That would be very interesting and I wouldn't be messing with my truck until it was perfected.
Freshman User
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Update: I've found a huge problem with the HHO kits in general. The POH used in the water solution was getting into the air system and eating the alum in the intake. I guess there is a trade off after all. I personally would avoid the HHO systems all together.
New User
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
I initially found out about the Hydrogen generator and PICC from a company in Eugene, Oregon and wrote to them. I wrote to the Ford Board of Directors who replied to me that their Ford engineers were enthusiastic about the concept and would check it out. The company in Eugene sent me an email thanking me for my support.
I have been busy on another project and have not followed up on their progress. It is easy to generate hydrogen with a beaker, a dry cell battery and two strips of metal such a copper, and two glass tubes. You will get hydrogen from one electrode and oxygen from the other electrode depending upon the polarity of hydrogen and oxygen. Both will burn and the glass tubes provide a margin of safety. wbell5
I have been busy on another project and have not followed up on their progress. It is easy to generate hydrogen with a beaker, a dry cell battery and two strips of metal such a copper, and two glass tubes. You will get hydrogen from one electrode and oxygen from the other electrode depending upon the polarity of hydrogen and oxygen. Both will burn and the glass tubes provide a margin of safety. wbell5
Junior User
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 91
Likes: 1
In other words, the engineering groups of auto manufacturers seem to have found the optimal balance of performance, driveability and economy. If your preference is slightly different, a tune is in order, but don't expect a computer program to rewrite the laws of thermodynamics.
More Turbo
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
From: Cottageville, WV
In other words, the engineering groups of auto manufacturers seem to have found the optimal balance of performance, driveability and economy. If your preference is slightly different, a tune is in order, but don't expect a computer program to rewrite the laws of thermodynamics.
FTE Chapter Leader
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 30,595
Likes: 1,238
From: N. IL
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now
Brett Foote
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals
Joe Kucinski
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership
Brett Foote
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches
Pouria Savadkouei
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained
Brett Foote
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
New User
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
I've got 99.9 mpg with my EX before hear is how you do it. Start at the top of a 5 mile 9% grade reset the mpg indicator and by the time you are at the bottom it will be reading 99.9 mph. and thats with overdrive off and thrown down to second a few times to keep it 60 mph. so you dont melt the roters
New User
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Hydrogen that really worked.
Okay, so I came across this thread and had to go back and dig up some information on the history of hydrogen powered cars. This site is biased in favor of hydrogen cars. I used to have copies of the patent information of Lenoir's vehicle. My brother came across it while doing research for a class or something like that. Thought you guys might find it interesting. I am making no claims other than I found it fun to read.
Hydrogen Fuel Cars 1807 - 1986
1860
In 1860, Etienne Lenoir of France invented the 1-cylinder, 2-stroke Hippomobile. The Lenoir Hippomobile was so named because it received its fuel by electrolyzing water and running the hydrogen through the small horizontal engine. The Hippomobile engine ran on "natural cycles" with an uptake of fuel mixture and a down stroke combusting the exhausted fuel.
Later, Lenoir adapted the engine for various gases such as coal gas. Around 350-400 of the Lenoir gas motors were built and sold.
1807
In 1807 Francois Isaac de Rivaz of Switzerland designed the first internal combustion engine that ran inside the first automobile. This first experimental prototype was powered by hydrogen gas and oxygen. The Rivaz car stored compressed hydrogen gas in a balloon and it had an electrical Volta cell ignition.
Hydrogen Fuel Cars 1807 - 1986
1860
In 1860, Etienne Lenoir of France invented the 1-cylinder, 2-stroke Hippomobile. The Lenoir Hippomobile was so named because it received its fuel by electrolyzing water and running the hydrogen through the small horizontal engine. The Hippomobile engine ran on "natural cycles" with an uptake of fuel mixture and a down stroke combusting the exhausted fuel.
Later, Lenoir adapted the engine for various gases such as coal gas. Around 350-400 of the Lenoir gas motors were built and sold.
1807
In 1807 Francois Isaac de Rivaz of Switzerland designed the first internal combustion engine that ran inside the first automobile. This first experimental prototype was powered by hydrogen gas and oxygen. The Rivaz car stored compressed hydrogen gas in a balloon and it had an electrical Volta cell ignition.
. You get a better result.
Freshman User
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: New Berlin Wi.
No right thread, I apologize, didn't mean to open old wounds. Just looked at the map. Thread could probably be deleted. Do have a question about explorer 6 speed trans. Where should I post it?