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From: holland patent usa
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Thanks to all the posts in here that answered my billion questions. I'm dropping a 460 into a 1970 f100 2wd. I just have one more question are l&l headers the only option for this swap?
thanks matt
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From: Six Shooter Junction
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I doubt that they are the only headers available, but they are in my opinion the best.
Chase
1979 F-250 4x4
71 460 Holley650, MSD OFFROAD, L&L Headers
C6-B&M Transpack
Dana HD44Front/60Rear
35 inch Goodyear Implement Tires
4 inch Skyjacker System
Much more to come
Chase
1979 F-250 4x4
71 460 Holley650, MSD OFFROAD, L&L Headers
C6-B&M Transpack
Dana HD44Front/60Rear
35 inch Goodyear Implement Tires
4 inch Skyjacker System
Much more to come
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i speak from exp. l&l is the only way to go i used L&L alt. brackets L&L power stering pump brackets i used there motor mounts and headers wow i have there nickle plated stainless headers they make working lonthe truck alot easier and i think that buy having the exhaustout side the frame it helps keep the transfer case and tranny cooler my two cents are up
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From: Eldorado Ca. USA
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Headman makes a set as well, be prepared to shell out $400 though(from summit). These are non coated, and made of 18ga. tubing, 3/8 mounting flange, 1/4" collectors... The L&L can be had for the same price (through Jeff's Bronco Graveyard), about $390 with shipping.
These are made with 14 gage tubing, 1/2" mouting flange, 3/8" collector flange, are nickel plated, and have a lifetime warranty against manf. defects and rust through. The headmans have a lifetime warranty against manf. defects only. Buyer beware though, JBG is SLOOOOW. I ordered my set back in December and am getting impateint(still waiting). Makes me wonder if I should have spent the extra $80 and bought direct from L&L eh?
Tony
'74 F250. 460, "beater"
'73 F250, "midnight auto"
'77 F250, 460 transplantee, "Flamer"
These are made with 14 gage tubing, 1/2" mouting flange, 3/8" collector flange, are nickel plated, and have a lifetime warranty against manf. defects and rust through. The headmans have a lifetime warranty against manf. defects only. Buyer beware though, JBG is SLOOOOW. I ordered my set back in December and am getting impateint(still waiting). Makes me wonder if I should have spent the extra $80 and bought direct from L&L eh?
Tony
'74 F250. 460, "beater"
'73 F250, "midnight auto"
'77 F250, 460 transplantee, "Flamer"
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From: texarkana, tx
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Hi Lucky ---
I love my L&L headers --- I enjoy TWO benefits from them....
1) 30 seconds or less to get the starter out...
2) Wife can hear me coming down the road 2 miles away (or should I credit the 4'long thrush muffs for that?...)
I also use the L&L mounts and alt brackets --- everything works just like factory... (or better....)
Thanks,
I love my L&L headers --- I enjoy TWO benefits from them....
1) 30 seconds or less to get the starter out...
2) Wife can hear me coming down the road 2 miles away (or should I credit the 4'long thrush muffs for that?...)
I also use the L&L mounts and alt brackets --- everything works just like factory... (or better....)
Thanks,
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I have a 68 F-100 2WD SWB that I just finished putting a 460 in. I didn't have the extra money to buy all of the L&L stuff, so I used brackets off of cars in junkyard, the motor mount kit for 65-79 2WD trucks out of P.A.W. catalog, and a set of Flowtech headers for a 74 1/2 ton 2WD. It all went together with no problems except for the passenger side header which comes down to sharply and hits the crossmember. I just took my die grinder and a small cut-off wheel and notched out my crossmember so they would fit. It beats paying $400 from L&L, the Flowtechs cost me $140 from Speedtek.
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From: lake ariel usa
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stansheaders.com sells very nice headers for the 4wd swap these are what i intend to guy some added bonuses are they are tri y design chassis exit and chrome plated all for $355 plus shipping if anyone has any feedback on these i would like to hear it before i buy them i think the tri y setup is a great idea any comments thanks
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From: texarkana, tx
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Trinogt ---
The L&L brackets allow the headers to be bolted to my heads....they be HUGE (thick)!!! The thicker they are, the less they will flex and warp. Keep in mind when using headers, you'll have more "underhood" temperatures as the thick iron manifolds that are normally on the engine are no longer there to carry the heat out from the exhaust ports.
Most of the comments I get when fellow rodders look under the hood are about the "beautiful" header flanges...they aint' cheap looking - it's quality stuff..
The L&L brackets allow the headers to be bolted to my heads....they be HUGE (thick)!!! The thicker they are, the less they will flex and warp. Keep in mind when using headers, you'll have more "underhood" temperatures as the thick iron manifolds that are normally on the engine are no longer there to carry the heat out from the exhaust ports.
Most of the comments I get when fellow rodders look under the hood are about the "beautiful" header flanges...they aint' cheap looking - it's quality stuff..
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From: On the farm near Loveland
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Hey, Lucky, I've got a set of L&Ls on my '96 F-250 460. I couldn't be happier with them. Very thick flanges where they bolt to the heads, good spark plug access, and they fit. There is plenty of clearance around the engine, starter and frame. It's obvious they didn't chintz on quality or design. My spplication is mostly towing and hard mountain driving and I am more than pleased with the seat of the pants increase in performance of my truck. About $200 less expensive than the Thorleys which are also an excellent brand. I don't have any recent experience with other brands (not since my 1970s Chevy SS-396 rodding days, anyway) so I can't comment on them.
Good luck with whatever you do!
Good luck with whatever you do!
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