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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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Are you starting to "leak" already Kris? You had a big oil system before. Oh well, will whatever you are doing be done when you go to Smokin?
?? NO leaks here, remember i returned it.

I will have some things done by that time, but no, the truck won't be "done" powerwise by then.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
No you will be very disappointed. I don't know who's doing the tuning, but if you are running DP Tuner's files (best you can get IFTEO (in FTE's opinion ) you will be suprised if you can even get to 400hp. With that stock turbo and stock exhaust housing, stock oil on big split shots, youre getting a very smokey, choked up 390ish HP.

Stealth had a twin-stock pump in front-back design, i don't know why they stopped producing it, but now they are going with three stages of single pumps. For what i plan on doing i'd need the stage three pump anyway which is the price of the BTS or Terminator HPOPs, so why not just go with a proven one? I think you'd only need the stage one though if you arent going any bigger than stage two splits. it's like 50% more oil volume, or something. BTW, the Pulse pump is cheapest out there plus it claims to support up to 250cc, a stock B code.
I sure hope not, I took the truck to a dyno two years in Albuquerque NM and with a 4" exhaust, K&N intake, and Super Tuner at I think around 4000' elevation the truck was putting 330 hp to the rear wheels. I was told that with the addition of these bigger injectors, TS tuner, FASS fuel system, and modified turbo I would see a min. 100 more hp. And no the truck doesnt really smoke at all. It only smokes about a second or two after WOT and clears up. I know the truck has a lot more get up and go than it did and will break the rear wheels loose at 25mph if you stomp on it. My motor only has about 50k miles on it so maybe the HPOP is keeping up better than expected. I think I will go with a stage two HPOP due to the fact that I do plan on getting bigger injectors in the future.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Try to see if you can figure out what injectors are on your truck. Horse with biceps is probably http://www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/ but they dont seem to have their own injectors, they get them from others.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Don't take my word for it, let the dyno tell you.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rebelchevy02
Try to see if you can figure out what injectors are on your truck. Horse with biceps is probably http://www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/ but they dont seem to have their own injectors, they get them from others.
Thanks rebelchevy02,

It was thoroughbred diesel that they got the injectors from and the brand was the ATS 230cc with .0075 nozles not the 160cc he told me at first and he also admitted that the injectors would produce more with an aftermarket HPOP. I went to the ATS website and they list the Stage two split shots as making over 400 rwhp with thier HPOP. I think I will do some more research on the pulse and stealth pumps before I make the purchase.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Well if you have 230cc, they are in fact stock 530 hybrids, that work well on a stock pump that can keep up. You will probably see 450 in that case, being that you have an extra 50cc of fuel to burn. you'll be hard pressed for 400 on a stock turbo and oil with split shots at 160cc, but with hybrids, (they are single shot normally, don't know how you'd do that unless they used a BI plunger) you are well on your way to 450. Whos tuning them?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
Well if you have 230cc, they are in fact stock 530 hybrids, that work well on a stock pump that can keep up. You will probably see 450 in that case, being that you have an extra 50cc of fuel to burn. you'll be hard pressed for 400 on a stock turbo and oil with split shots at 160cc, but with hybrids, (they are single shot normally, don't know how you'd do that unless they used a BI plunger) you are well on your way to 450. Whos tuning them?
he said ts tuning a couple posts back i think
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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And no the truck doesnt really smoke at all. It only smokes about a second or two after WOT and clears up.
I could be wrong, but I cant see a stock or even modified stock turbo cleaning up hybrids. You should be able to smoke on command, unless they are actually detuned in the programming. Have you tried all the settings of the TS unit?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Well, thats your problem right there IMO. I don't know if TS tuned for the chip or not, but i've never heard of a split shot stock hybrid. I could be wrong though, again. Yeah there must be something wrong in the info youve gotten, or the tuning, because Hybrids still smoke a haze when at full boost with even an H2E or the like. Even then it lets out a large cloud in spooling up. The stock turbo is not even going to think of cleaning it up, and it will be gone in the next few weeks if you still have the .84 exhaust housing on it. That backpressure is just way too much.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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When I first run the truck after clearing codes it does smoke more but as soon as the SES light comes on it decreases a lot. I also notice a small loss of power from half throttle to full. I am also showing a code, cant remember the number now, that states high back pressure or somthing to that nature. So all the techs that I talked to today think the defueling is one of the two problems and the other is big oil or lack there of.
This is the listing for the injectors I purchased on ATS performances web site.
" Stage 2 99-03 Split-Shot: Maintain good driveability and making over 400rwhp. These injectors will drain the high pressure oil rail when only the stock high pressure pump is used. Requires ATS Twin high pressure oil pump"
Problem is AMJ performance forgot to mention to me the "will drain the high pressure oil rail when only the stock high pressure pump is used" part when I purchased them or I could have saved myself some issues and istalled one when it was apart. And the TS chip is custom burnt to run these injectors by chris at AMJ.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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I have kinda been following this. My setup will clean up the smoke in all but the highest settings. Even then, the smoke is brief as the boost comes on.

If he has 230cc Hybrids it should be very capable fuel wise but ought to smoke unless the tunes are so low that it will never fuel in that manner. Quick review, not sure what injectors he has or even the modified stock turbo specs or what it is but it will likely be struggling at 400, and short lived unless it is larger and has a bigger turbine housing along with a BB center. Again, what injectors and turbo setup do you have? Phat shaft, ATS rebuild, what?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Well, you typed that while I was typing. I thought you said those were backordered and you got something else?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rebelchevy02
I could be wrong, but I cant see a stock or even modified stock turbo cleaning up hybrids. You should be able to smoke on command, unless they are actually detuned in the programming. Have you tried all the settings of the TS unit?
Sorry ,
I didnt see your question until now but yes I have ran all settings on the chip and it will smoke more on the 140hp setting but still not that much. I still think the motor is being told to de-fuel itself because of the back pressure and the boost levels. I got that boost fooler coming soon so we will see. I should also be able to get more info at the dyno this weekend. Oh one more thing, One of the guys at Industrial Injection said that the FASS system will also cut down a lot on the smoke? I dont understand how this happens but thats what he claimed.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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no the single shots were back ordered
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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So what do you have??????? What turbo and injectors? I am predicting less than 400 and you better hope so unless you want to risk windowing that block.
 
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