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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Could state of battery charge or charging system have anything at all to do with ability of bendix to retract? Even with second starter it still does it. It seems possible that it's doing it less right after I disconnect charger and more later. If ya'll don't think it's related I'll go get another starter/starters till it's right.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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ya mine does it no matter how many starters i try out of 6 starters 6 do it, but i have dual optima yellow tops and good connections, so i dont know, i think its just somthing ford starters must do. i was embarassed again today by it in a drive thru



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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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Did you make sure to replace the starter solenoid on the fender? If the solenoid is bad the required amps can not be pulled.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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the big starter wire on mine goes right to the starter not though that solinoid, that is just a small wire going to the starter.

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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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anyone solve this problem yet???? its getting embarassing!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:41 AM
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Mine's still doing it from time to time, not as often on the third starter, I've found shims specifically for my aplication that are supposedly ford factory original so I'm going to give them a try when they get here. I'll let you know what happens
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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I put a shim on my 360 because I was having problems. After I went through my 3rd starter in about a year and a half(and it was not the starters fault) I put a shim in it. It appeared from my flywheel that the starter was engaging too far. I put one of the two hole shims I purchased and put a washer the same thickness on the 3rd bolt and I have had no problems since. I am not missing any plates or anything like that on my engine it just evidently needed that little extra distance. You may also want to check your Ring Gear. An engine will stop in the same spot most of the time and because of this your ring gear gets worn in the same spot because that is where your starter is always engaging. Rotate your engine when you have the starter off and check your teeth on your ring gear - you may need to replace that.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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anyone solve this problem yet???? its getting embarassing!!!!!!!!!!!

Ray
The common causes are a bad bendix or a missing block plate.

Another common problem I have seen more recently is that the casting for the starter interferes just a bit with the flywheel. Seems like a flaw in the new castings. Makes a hell of a noise when the two touch.

If you have your starter off, look for a spot on the shroud that sticks out the front of the case (on the open side) for a small area that has been ground down a bit. It will be only a 1/4 inch wide, but it should be very visible.

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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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Could be the ring gear
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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I've had the same experiences as post #22. I've had to shim lots of starters on full sized ford's with manual transmissions. Once when I was a teenager and had no money I used tin snips to cut a beer can up and used that to make shims, but it's a lot simpler to buy them.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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I agree with Freigttrain, and if the gears are engaging too much, you get that screeching noise. I've had that happen a couple times yrs ago, on GM products, and the shim fixed it. Somewhere in a tech manual, I have read what the clearances are supposed to be for the gears. I would go with a new starter and make sure the flywheel/plate teeth arent worn/ground down.
 
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