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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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Starter shims??

What did you use to shim your starter?
I bought a caltric one off ebay and it did not come with any shims.
Can I buy shims from Napa?
 
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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No expert, but it seems to me that if the starter doesn't install properly without shims, it's not the right starter.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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Ya, I've never installed any shims with a starter. What exactly are you wanting/needing to shim?
 
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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I've never seen shims on these starters either.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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These starters do not require shims

Something tells your starter is grinding on the flexplate
 
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 11:44 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Ford-7-3-Diesel-Starter-Power-stroke-High-Torque-/290340304150?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4399a17516&vxp=mtr

That is the starter I bought.

I thought it was grinding the fly wheel, sounds similar as in other youtube videos.

I have no idea what a flex plate is.


So do I have a bad starter?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pilgrimbizket
...I have no idea what a flex plate is...
A flex plate is what a vehicle with an automatic transmission has instead of a flywheel.

Edit: Are the wires hooked up to your starter correctly? I screwed up that part and was having problems.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckHammer
A flex plate is what a vehicle with an automatic transmission has instead of a flywheel.

Edit: Are the wires hooked up to your starter correctly? I screwed up that part and was having problems.
Did this grind your flywheel?

Yes the wires were hooked up correctly, but I will double check when I get home.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fordpride
These starters do not require shims

Something tells your starter is grinding on the flexplate

I thought if they grinded shimming was the solution?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pilgrimbizket
Did this grind your flywheel?
No. Do you know that it is grinding your flexplate? When I had my starter hooked up incorrectly, it basically just revved up the starter, and the noise it made caused me to think that it was possibly hitting the flexplate (I had an E4OD at that point) as opposed to engaging the teeth. I'm just saying that I assumed that I had hooked it up correctly and was wrong. My false assumption made troubleshooting the problem far more of a hassle than it should have been. Keep in mind that I'm just trying to help. I'm not trying to insult your ability or anything. Hell, I just admitted that it was a mistake that I made.

To add to what everybody else is saying, I've also never heard of using starter shims on these engines.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 02:35 PM
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Your starter is spinning before it engages.

It should engage a BS the a fraction of a second later start spinning
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckHammer
No. Do you know that it is grinding your flexplate? When I had my starter hooked up incorrectly, it basically just revved up the starter, and the noise it made caused me to think that it was possibly hitting the flexplate (I had an E4OD at that point) as opposed to engaging the teeth. I'm just saying that I assumed that I had hooked it up correctly and was wrong. My false assumption made troubleshooting the problem far more of a hassle than it should have been. Keep in mind that I'm just trying to help. I'm not trying to insult your ability or anything. Hell, I just admitted that it was a mistake that I made.

To add to what everybody else is saying, I've also never heard of using starter shims on these engines.
I really do appreciate the help

So did you have it wired incorrectly or was it not seated correctly?

I dont think I have it wired wrong this starter is pretty cut and dry it just has room for a positive and a little spot for the ground. Im not going to put it past myself I have wired stuff wrong in the past. You can see in the ebay pic the only available terminals are, a big one for positive and a one small for a ground.

I dont know, Ive had this thing in and out of the truck 3 times, my stock one works fine.

Im going to guess my starter is bad?
 

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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fordpride
Your starter is spinning before it engages.

It should engage a BS the a fraction of a second later start spinning

Suggesting its not even hitting the flexplate?

what is BS?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Hell if I know. Lol my phone is trying to be smart.

The starter should engage a then a fraction of a second later start spinning.

To me is sounds like its starts spinning then try's to engage but the starter is hitting the side of the flex plate
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pilgrimbizket
I dont think I have it wired wrong this starter is pretty cut and dry it just has room for a positive and a little spot for the ground.
The starter grounds through its attachment to the block. Both terminals are "positive". The big one is energized all the time, and comes directly from the batteries. The small one is for the solenoid, and comes from the relay on the fender. The ring terminals on the two corresponding wires are sized accordingly, but it's still not impossible to get one or the other wrong.
 
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