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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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you would be correct regarding the front springs, i just had a brain fart and didn't go into those
 
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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The answer for "whats the difference between a F250 and an F350" is in the SUPER DUTY Tech Folder. Heres the link and read posts 4 and 5.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...lder_____.html
 
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by njstevens
F350 springs are not the same as F250 springs. Bottlon line. Look at any F350 and look at an F250 see how much higher the F350 is. Guess what , "Springs" make that height difference. Not just the block or othersie the front end would not sit so high.
That is what I always thought too, but have looked into it a little and have found they are the same. I ordered my pickup w/ camper package and tow package. The spring codes are the same as my dads f250 w/ same packages.

I just swapped out my front V code springs with X codes. Looks much better!
 

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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http://home.comcast.net/~dashriprock...suburban2s.JPG

there was a SHORT run of suburban 1 ton duellys in the late 80's early 90's I had a friend that had one! looking for pics of it now....got it on my computer somewhere....there was one in the movie TWISTER also it was the 90-91 sub that the radio tower went through........They DID make them tho!!

I thought if you had the 4:30 gears that upgraded the D50 to the D60 housing??
not sure on that tho..................
 

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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I remember seeing a dually Suburban around here. Thought it was early 80's model. Only remember seeing ONE though...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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I believe the dually subs were conversions. you could do the same with an X if you want to waste your money.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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When my dad got his 250 the whole reason he didnt go to a 350 is due to the fact that there is no mechanical difference. It is only the look of how the two sit. I didnt like the look of the f250 cc longbox so I went with the 350.
TTB vs solid front axle...unless your talking a 1998 and up F250
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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I was talking about 99 and later.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by aortizexcursion
The answer for "whats the difference between a F250 and an F350" is in the SUPER DUTY Tech Folder. Heres the link and read posts 4 and 5.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...lder_____.html
Doesn't seem like people are reading my post. This is from the SUPER DUTY Tech Folder
  • The question that seems to keep coming up week after week is

    " What is the difference between a F250 and a F350"

    Here it is:

    There are 3 differences between the SRW 250/350...
    1) F-250 vs F-350 badges
    2) 2" rear spacer block in 250 vs 4" in the 350
    3) *most important* GVWR for F350 SRW is 9900 in most states and the F250 8800 in most states.

    From 99 to mid 2001 the srw trucks came with a Dana 50, Ford started using the Dana 60's on all F250/350's from mid 01 to present ,the front axle is identical on both trucks, including springs.


    Springs in the Source Book are EXACTLY the same:
    Front Leaf 250/350

    3600lb 1.12"(thickness) 55.63"(length) 3.00"(width) 350(deflection)
    4000lb 1.18"(thickness) 55.63"(length) 3.00"(width) 370(deflection)
    4400lb 1.18"(thickness) 55.63"(length) 3.00"(width) 390(deflection)
    4800lb 1.18"(thickness) 55.63"(length) 3.00"(width) 410(deflection)
    5200lb 1.18"(thickness) 55.63"(length) 3.00"(width) 430(deflection)
    6000lb 1.25"(thickness) 55.63"(length) 3.00"(width) 470(deflection)

    Rear Leaf 250/350

    6830lb 6(leaves) 3.86(thickness @ pad) 58.1"(lenght) 3.00"(width) 320/670/1209(deflection lbs/sq") 3603(rating@pad lbs/spring)

    Rear leaf DRW
    8250lb 6(leaves) 3.95(thickness @ pad) 58.1"(lenght) 3.00"(width) 350/730/1270(deflection lbs/sq") 4187(rating@pad lbs/spring)

And this is an email from FORD explaining the differences that are also from the SUPER DUTY Tech Folder
  • And if that is not enough, here is a email, submitted by John aka johnsdiesel, that he received directly from FORD



    Dear John,

    Thank you for your message of 06/24/04 regarding the 2002 Ford F-250
    and 2002 Ford F-350. We appreciate the time you have taken to inquire
    about the rear leaf spring specifications of these vehicles.

    Thank you for your interest in our products and services. Rugged,
    practical, capable, innovative - these are clearly qualities of Ford
    F-Series Super Duty trucks.

    In an effort to assist, we have researched your inquiry and according
    to
    our records, the rear leaf spring specifications for the 2002 Ford
    F-250
    and 2002 Ford F-350 are the same. They are:

    Super Duty Series/Model: F-250/F-350 SRW Pickup
    Combined Rating @ Ground: 6830 pounds (lbs.)
    Number of Leaves: 6
    Total Thickness @ Pad: 3.86 inches (in.)
    Overall Length: 58.1 in.
    Width: 3.00 in.
    Deflection Rate (lbs. per in./ spring): 320/670/1209
    Rating Each @ Pad (lbs. per spring): 3603

    We hope this information is of assistance to you. Ford's goal is to
    make your ownership experience an enjoyable one. Your loyalty is
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    and appreciated. We would like you to continue to enjoy the many Ford
    products and services that we have to offer.

    At Ford Motor Company, we consider the satisfaction of our customers as
    one of our most important objectives. If you have any other inquiries
    or concerns, please feel free to contact us and we will be happy to
    address them.

    Thank you for contacting Ford Motor Company.

    Sincerely,
    Maggie
    Ford Motor Company
    Customer Relationship Center

I hope this clears things up a little.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mudmaker
I believe the dually subs were conversions. you could do the same with an X if you want to waste your money.
That would be quite simple actually, source a Dana 80 DRW and it would practically bolt right up, have to move the spring perches on the axle but that aint hard. Probably even use the stock D shaft, might have to shorten slightly but i doubt it, the T case ought to take the extra...

Sounds like a fun project....
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by twisted84toyota
http://home.comcast.net/~dashriprock...suburban2s.JPG

there was a SHORT run of suburban 1 ton duellys in the late 80's early 90's I had a friend that had one! looking for pics of it now....got it on my computer somewhere....there was one in the movie TWISTER also it was the 90-91 sub that the radio tower went through........They DID make them tho!!
..................
I'm guessing the dually-conversion, just like the 22.5" rims, is not factory, but aftermarket, even if it was sold new through a dealer.

But as noted, the Excursion can also be converted to a dually, using factory axle pieces and aftermarket fenders, YO!





http://www.chromewheel.com/PIX/excursion.htm

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=122508
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by twisted84toyota
http://home.comcast.net/~dashriprock...suburban2s.JPG

there was a SHORT run of suburban 1 ton duellys in the late 80's early 90's I had a friend that had one! looking for pics of it now....got it on my computer somewhere....there was one in the movie TWISTER also it was the 90-91 sub that the radio tower went through........They DID make them tho!!

I thought if you had the 4:30 gears that upgraded the D50 to the D60 housing??
not sure on that tho..................
You are right I rember that movie and now that I think of that there was a 1 ton sub in there great example. I love when I get swept up my the tornado
Nick
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BobBarry
I'm guessing the dually-conversion, just like the 22.5" rims, is not factory, but aftermarket, even if it was sold new through a dealer.

But as noted, the Excursion can also be converted to a dually, using factory axle pieces and aftermarket fenders, YO!





http://www.chromewheel.com/PIX/excursion.htm

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=122508
I want one
Nick
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BobBarry
I'm guessing the dually-conversion, just like the 22.5" rims, is not factory, but aftermarket, even if it was sold new through a dealer.

But as noted, the Excursion can also be converted to a dually, using factory axle pieces and aftermarket fenders, YO!





http://www.chromewheel.com/PIX/excursion.htm

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=122508
That is not an Excursion, its an F650 highly modified. Heres a website of it.
http://www.f650pickups.com/page0009d.html
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by aortizexcursion
That is not an Excursion, its an F650 highly modified. Heres a website of it.
http://www.f650pickups.com/page0009d.html


Really!?!



It was the only pic I could find of the Excursion dually rear fenders mounted.

But the back half of the body is Excursion, so it's as much
Excursion as anything else...
 
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