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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Resistor size for AIH delete

Quick question: I need to run a CCT and I don't have an AIH. What size resistor do I need to fool the PCM so I can run the test?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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i tested mine (it was still in my tool box) and it read .4 ohms on my fluke DMM. i dont know if that value would change when energized but thats what is was static...hope that helps
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Well from what I've found it's supposed to be 470 ohm, 1/4 watt. I'll put it on my truck today and see if that works.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Hmmm. I removed my AIH and am able to run a CCT or rotational velocity test on mine. Something I don't know about here?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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If the heater element is .4 ohms, 35A at 14V would flow through it (voltage/resistance=current). Not sure where the 470 ohm resistor goes, but if it's supposed to fool the PCM into thinking SOMETHING is there besides an open, 470 ohms would flow ~.029A well below the 1/4A rating. Let us know if it works!!
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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If the heater element is .4 ohms, 35A at 14V would flow through it (voltage/resistance=current). Not sure where the 470 ohm resistor goes, but if it's supposed to fool the PCM into thinking SOMETHING is there besides an open, 470 ohms would flow ~.029A well below the 1/4A rating. Let us know if it works!!
It works, I've run one for over 3 years, no codes.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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It works, I've run one for over 3 years, no codes.
Got a picture of that? I get the AIH soft code but haven't really cared. Got tired of clearing it so I don't bother with it.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Got a picture of that? I get the AIH soft code but haven't really cared. Got tired of clearing it so I don't bother with it.
I don't have a picture, it is just a Radio Shack 470 ohm 1/4 watt resistor soldered to enough 16 gauge wire to reach from the GPR to the stock ground location on the block, wrapped with electrical tape, with an appropriate sized eye on both ends.

I think I have some resistors I'll mail to you if anybody wants one, they come in a pack of 5 from Radio Shack. PM me if you want one and I'll look for them tonight.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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I don't have a picture, it is just a Radio Shack 470 ohm 1/4 watt resistor soldered to enough 16 gauge wire to reach from the GPR to the stock ground location on the block, wrapped with electrical tape, with an appropriate sized eye on both ends.

I think I have some resistors I'll mail to you if anybody wants one, they come in a pack of 5 from Radio Shack. PM me if you want one and I'll look for them tonight.
Thanks Clux, but for the price of those things, and the trouble, I'll probably go to radio shack. Gonna wait on Curtis' observations.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Postage for the resistors would be about as much as they cost. Really inexpensive IIRC.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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I think they cost 99 cents for 5.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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So, when DFUser says that their P041 AIH Code Eliminator is "more than just a wire", I guess what they're not saying is that the code eliminator is a 16 gauge wire with a 470 ohm resistor soldered in.

Hmmm... $19 to DFUser, or less than $3 in my own parts, the resistor being the only part I don't already have.... I think I'll make my own "code eliminator".

Thanks guys... I've been hoping that someone would eventually run through this issue with the details necessary to not spend the $19 plus S&H to DFUser.

http://www.dfuser.com/mfg/powerstroke/73/Intake/AIH.php
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
If the heater element is .4 ohms, 35A at 14V would flow through it (voltage/resistance=current). Not sure where the 470 ohm resistor goes, but if it's supposed to fool the PCM into thinking SOMETHING is there besides an open, 470 ohms would flow ~.029A well below the 1/4A rating. Let us know if it works!!
Don't mean to step on your toes, but i believe a 750 or a 820 ohm (5% values) resistor would be needed to stay under a 1/4 watt (as apposed to 1/4 Amp). a 470ohm resistor would need to be a 1/2 watt. 2 1000 ohm 1/4 watt resistors in parellel would work too.

R = V/(P/V)

my question is, since the element is isolated with the relay, how does the PCM know its there? it could only read the resistance of the relay coil. is there another wire that feeds back the element voltage to the pcm? Either way I will try one out. I think that the resistor can be placed on the relay, as it has both connections needed; ground for the coil and the element wire.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Hey!! Good catch. I did get my A & W mixed up. 470 ohms would flow ~.03A at 14V (which is voltage/resistance). To get power, you need this: power=current^2 x resistance, which is .03^2 * 470 = .423 watts, or as smokey says, just under .5W. A 1/2W resistor would be best here.
 

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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Yeah the 470 ohm 1/4 watt resistor didn't work. Still have the AIH code being thrown (soft code) and I can't run the CCT.

So what are you guys saying? I need to double up the resistors I have and run them parallel? I bought a 5 pack so I have a few to spare. Or do I need to get a different size (750 or 820 ohm 1/2 watt)?

I'm trying to run a CCT test to track down a knocking sound. Passes all other tests with flying colors, just can't run a CCT yet.
 
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