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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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I have allways used Valvoline VR1 without any problems...But I also hear Shells Rotella T is also a real good source for (Zinc) Oil.. for cam break ins..

As Wes said zinc is needed for proper Cam and bearing break in....JMO

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Hey Russ, You might want to investigate Shells Rotella T. The guys said that they have lowered the amount of zinc in the oil! Do to EPA....JMO
 

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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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So what can you do if the levels of Zinc are now lower. Are there special break-in additives that will add zinc to the oil?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Yes! Some oils are lower in zinc or did away with them (also clogs the new cars cat after 50,000 miles or so). Chevy use to make some stuff called EOS. But they discontinued it. Comp, Crane and a few others make Brake-in Additive (zinc enriched). But Like I said do a little homework because there are a few oils that have the zinc and you won't need the additive! I would say 1,000ppm in zinc is good enough!
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Well Wes I wasnt aware o that? Hmmmmm.. I do know that when I was Stupidvisor at Sam's club also running the Automotive dept, and the Truck Dept here...Well in Roanoke...I used to have Rattle motor Bulders come in and Have me order it by the drums.....For them....

Now I do know there are a hell of alot laxer EPA controls here in VA, than there are say in SoCal where I used to live.....and they all swore by it....But I have yet to do any reading up on it, in a year or 2....But I will check into it.....and "IF" its not the same product as they once had..or I cant get the stuff in my area....I'll just use the VR1 I have been using for 30 years then....

Thanks for the tip Wes!

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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Well Wes I wasnt aware o that? Hmmmmm.. I do know that when I was Stupidvisor at Sam's club also running the Automotive dept, and the Truck Dept here...Well in Roanoke...I used to have Rattle motor Bulders come in and Have me order it by the drums.....For them....

Now I do know there are a hell of alot laxer EPA controls here in VA, than there are say in SoCal where I used to live.....and they all swore by it....But I have yet to do any reading up on it, in a year or 2....But I will check into it.....and "IF" its not the same product as they once had..or I cant get the stuff in my area....I'll just use the VR1 I have been using for 30 years then....

Thanks for the tip Wes!

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You Bet Russ! But if you are running a roller cam.....Then you don't have to worry about that! JMO
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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LOL.. Yeah this is true Wes....No need for break in on the rollers..... I might just go back with a Slightly lager Hyd bump stick in ol bue... and it will definitley be a good size roller in the big project motor.....Because it will only get driven on some good weekends and an occational blast at the track....

Aint nothing like the sound of a Screaming Lady and the Smell of Burning Rubber!! lol

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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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LOL.. Yeah this is true Wes....No need for break in on the rollers..... I might just go back with a Slightly lager Hyd bump stick in ol bue... and it will definitley be a good size roller in the big project motor.....Because it will only get driven on some good weekends and an occational blast at the track....

Aint nothing like the sound of a Screaming Lady and the Smell of Burning Rubber!! lol

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LOL......Thats too funny Russ.

Hey buy the way check out Delo 400. Its now low emissions (must be less zinc or no zinc in it know). Imagine that........
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Yeah Wes..... I think before you know it....there going to want us to run.....Singer Sewing Machine Oil in are HotRod...

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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Man........Your not kidding in this day and age Russ! I'm glade to see more younger people (younger then me LOL) are getting in this sport. Who knows what the future hold for us!
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Yeah Wes so am I......Getting some of the Kids (I can say that at my age) LOL... out of the those Chop stick cars..and driving and actually being interested in some our old iron.... Make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside..LMAO!!

But I love it.....and I just hope they keep on coming in with there questions!

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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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But I love it.....and I just hope they keep on coming in with there questions!
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Me too RJ.....ME too
 
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Hey Russ, You might want to investigate Shells Rotella T. The guys said that they have lowered the amount of zinc in the oil! Do to EPA....JMO
Something I just remembered .....was the fact if you ordered Rotella in the large 55 gal drums you could get the old CI-4 rated stuff with the higher zinc content. I'll look into it further.
 

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Nevermind. There was nothing conclusive to back it up....sorry.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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I am interest in using the VR-1 when I break my engine in, but am looking for a recommendation on oil weight. Should I use 20W-50 or 10W-30 (if there is VR-1 in this weight)? Your thoughts are much appreciated.
 

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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I always run 20-50 but that is just me! LOL As long as it has ZDDP in the oil your fine...
 
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