Despite being GM, I want this engine!
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Despite being GM, I want this engine!
If only this loads right-
http://www.gmemd.com/en/locomotive/innovations/engine/hengine/images/h_engine.jpg
I don't care if it does say GM on the valve covers (all 16 of them), I want it. 6300hp, twin turbos, and bigger than the rest of my truck!
Hey bentkey, what do you run regularly?
Jared
http://www.gmemd.com/en/locomotive/innovations/engine/hengine/images/h_engine.jpg
I don't care if it does say GM on the valve covers (all 16 of them), I want it. 6300hp, twin turbos, and bigger than the rest of my truck!
Hey bentkey, what do you run regularly?
Jared
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it was EMD's new H-series 4-stroke. you can see it on www.gmemd.com. I love the FM-ALCo site, my fav is the ALCo RS-11, as you might tell from my e-mail address. I love the GE's, as they still run a 251- derived engine. I never understood, how EMD gets 2400hp from a 16-cyl, 567cid per cylinder two stroke engine, while ALCO gets the same from a 16-cyl, 251cid per cylinder 4-stroke engine. If you look at the specs, though, some of GM's older stuff runs 11.5:1 compression. How do they light the fuel?
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I thought that the horsepower for locomotives was rated at the axle motors. 
UP has two old SP SD40T-2's parked on the spur next to our plant. I think they are headed for the boneyard, but I sure love to look at that old iron!
UP has two old SP SD40T-2's parked on the spur next to our plant. I think they are headed for the boneyard, but I sure love to look at that old iron!
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When i lived in Roanoke the company i worked for built a wheel turning shed addition for Norfolk Southern,Talk about iron i got to check out all the engines in the yard during lunch breaks.
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 26-Nov-02 AT 08:06 PM (EST)]Yes I have run SD40-2 SD60's also but that was a while ago. I work a yard engine now 
Home every night drive less than 10mins to get to work off every Sat and Sunday
Do you really want to hear what I think of GEs? The UP likes them because of fuel milage. We (engineers) say they should get good fuel milage because the EMDs are allways pulling at least two GEs that don't run lol.
Really the GEs don't ride as well as the other locomotives either.
p.s. if Ford would build a locomotive I know it would be built right
Home every night drive less than 10mins to get to work off every Sat and Sunday Do you really want to hear what I think of GEs? The UP likes them because of fuel milage. We (engineers) say they should get good fuel milage because the EMDs are allways pulling at least two GEs that don't run lol. Really the GEs don't ride as well as the other locomotives either.
p.s. if Ford would build a locomotive I know it would be built right
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Ford actually did build a locomotive in the 50's. It looked like a car, though, with a center cab, two long, sloping hoods, and chrome!
They built one again in the late 70's. It was called an F-350 SCS. I know what you mean about the GE's, I saw one broke down in Flagstaff, it was pouring water out everywhere. I am surprised, though, that GM went back to a cast block. The last ones they had were the old Winton engines used in the Zephyrs, and the Flying Yankee.
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They built one again in the late 70's. It was called an F-350 SCS. I know what you mean about the GE's, I saw one broke down in Flagstaff, it was pouring water out everywhere. I am surprised, though, that GM went back to a cast block. The last ones they had were the old Winton engines used in the Zephyrs, and the Flying Yankee.
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Locomotives are, yes, but the engines have power ratings, too. I
used to be an engineer aboard the towboat Queen City (formerly
Dixie Power) which was powered by a pair of two-stroke 16-cylinder
645's, rated at 2800 shaft hp apiece. These are essentially the
same diesels you'll find in similar-vintage (mid-70s) railroad
diesel-electric locomotives, just adapted for marine use.
It was mechanical nirvana to stand between those two big mills when
they were working at near-full power (upstream Illinois River with
a 15-tub loaded tow). The noise and vibration and heat were mind-
numbing, but in a good way.
used to be an engineer aboard the towboat Queen City (formerly
Dixie Power) which was powered by a pair of two-stroke 16-cylinder
645's, rated at 2800 shaft hp apiece. These are essentially the
same diesels you'll find in similar-vintage (mid-70s) railroad
diesel-electric locomotives, just adapted for marine use.
It was mechanical nirvana to stand between those two big mills when
they were working at near-full power (upstream Illinois River with
a 15-tub loaded tow). The noise and vibration and heat were mind-
numbing, but in a good way.
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Regarding them old Fairbanks Morse Diesel engines I can talk for hours about them. They were the best main propulsion diesel engines I ever worked on in the Navy. We had them on the old diesel submarines. They were the model 3
81/8 engines. They were 10 cylinder with two crankshafts (upper and lower). There were two pistons in each cylinder that came in toward each other (no cylinder heads). At inner dead center is when fuel was injected and ignition took place. The two crankshafts were coupled together by a vertical drive through bevel gears. These monsters developed 1600 HP @ 720 RPM. They were almost troublefree engines. I recall tearing one down for overhaul after 20,000 hours and very little wear was evident. I am sure this enging would have done another 20,000 with no problem.
81/8 engines. They were 10 cylinder with two crankshafts (upper and lower). There were two pistons in each cylinder that came in toward each other (no cylinder heads). At inner dead center is when fuel was injected and ignition took place. The two crankshafts were coupled together by a vertical drive through bevel gears. These monsters developed 1600 HP @ 720 RPM. They were almost troublefree engines. I recall tearing one down for overhaul after 20,000 hours and very little wear was evident. I am sure this enging would have done another 20,000 with no problem.
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We still use them in the Coast Guard on our large cutters. Ours are 12 cylinder, 24 pistons. twin cranks upper and lower, geared together for one shaft. we have two of these engines, one for each prop shaft. these things crank out 3600 shaft HP each. our are high maintenance though, as they are pretty old. just though i would share this.
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The shipyard I work for just finished rebuilding a tug, a YTL actually, with an 8-cyl FM engine in it. Original engine, don't know it's overhaul status or how many hours, but still going very strong. The only problem with these engines in marine is that they don't like being throttled back. One of their ferrys had a pair of 1600hp units, but they couldn't run them at part throttle. The ship also had a primitive variable-vane prop system, and all this was torn out in favor of a pair of EMD's and gearboxes, with straight-up props. It's a shame. Both of the removed engines are still sitting in the shipyard, tho-
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