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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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I'll post it up in a bit.......
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Here is the turbo fart video:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/lc/lc.ph...%3D4_531IQ9nRw
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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thanks Oats.

Ok YEAH that is the sound that i was talking about when I opened this thread, BUT the turbo fart, that I hear on MY truck, only happens #1 when COLD, and #2 only after accelerating then taking your foot completley off the gas pedal.

In the video that guys truck was doing it while accelarating up a hill speractiacaly, and much more often.....strange!

so what is the finally outcome? My dealer mechanic still insists that it is normal.....

Thanks for all the replies/
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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my truck does the same thing but doenst clunk. it only beer bottle whistle at around 5-10psi of boost. Dealer says to me this is normal so i guess it is.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Is your dealer a crack dealer, cause he must be on it. If you get the beer bottle whistle during boost conditions (I'm not talking about the high pitch jet engine whistle), it should sound like uncle Jed and the boys playing the whiskey jug, then I would strongly suggest that you get them to do the pressure test on the coolant system. Did your truck make this noise when it was new?????? If it did then I would agree that it would be normal. If this was a sound that developed over time, then you got issues my friend.....Don't wait till you are off warranty to get this checked, it will cost you big bucks. The beer bottle whistle is over pressure bypassing the lid on the degass. You may be lucky and it could be just the lid if you havent had that update yet. As part of the diagnosis for the lid swap they are supposed to check coolant system pressure. It is part of the TSB so don't let your dealer talk you out of it.

1 warped head, two head gaskets, misc parts and seals and labour, mine woulda cost me nearly $7000.00.

Now it was too bad that they did not address the long crank be fore start issue at the same time (HPOP fitting) it woulda saved me a second appointment and cost alot less as they had the HPOP area exposed to replace the head.....makes no sense....Now I am making another apointment to address the ABS light that was on after they fixed my HPOP (wasn't on when I dropped it off). Now I am getting a CEL with P0299 code for turbo under boost condition. Now they are saying could be a faulty sensor, VGT valve or maybe a exhaust back pressure sensor issue.......

Let the games begin.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Ok never said that I get the "beer bottle" whistle....at all. I never even heard a low sound like that from MY truck. Only that high pitch whistle which is normal.

As for the baffle sound (turbo fart), that I heard in the video, YES ive gotten that sound since as far back as I can remember, prob. since new! and was told its normal so I can only speak for my truck.

so to clarify, YES i get a turbo fart, when cold ONLY, and ONLY when de-celarating. I have gotten it since new (approx 3yrs now).

NO ive never gotten this beer bottle low sounding whistle that you speak of, nor have I ever heard that sound anywhere.

YES i get the normal tea kettle, high pitched preasure realease, psi, type whistle.

end of story-
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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I am all confused Matty has a diff. prob. than me and kusto is telling us one of us has a prob. I'm all confused. All i know is that the dealer could be lying to me but they say my noise is normal. IE: The beer bottle effect at 5-10 psi of boost. which i could buy b/c it always did it and my buddies Chevy durafart does the same thing but not as loud.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Yes, if you haven't been following along from the beginning, this thread is getting confusing. As far as I'm concerned the turbo fart (see video) and the beer bottle whistle are two separate issues. My '06 30K-mile truck has never hiccupped as exhibited in the turbo fart video. I would never accept that condition and would be all over the dealer for a fix. The beer bottle whistle started maybe 6 or 8k ago and was intermittent, only doing it when pulling large hills or similar. It gradually has gotten to the point where it does it all the time when applying throttle and letting off. Just like the name it sounds like blowing air over an open beer bottle. Truck runs great and has never puked. Whether this sound is "normal" or not, I do not like it and will be taking it to the dealer to be diagnosed. I have delayed in hoping of gaining some insight prior to my dealer visit. I hope some of you out there are not mistaking the whine of the turbo as the whistle some of us are speaking of.

Matty....I noticed you said you don't get the beer bottle whistle, but you do get a tea kettle whistle. All bottles and kettles are different, my truck's sound could easily be described as a tea kettle by some and beer bottle by others. In your opinion what is causing that sound and why would you consider it normal? Bought my truck new and watched this sound debut and evolve over time to be constant and IMO, annoying. Any techs or guys from Spartan or Innovative Diesel have any insight?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Hey oats let us know what your dealership tells ya. Its prob. normal but who knows.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Matty - sorry I was confused? You certianly must have a separate issue from Oats and myself and in my last post I was speaking to the condition posted by Oats "beer bottle whistle". I too get turbo fart and the high pitch whistle (f-16) but the beer bottle issue is most certianly a head gasket issue.

Oats you describe the condition to a "T". Mine also started out as an intermitent only on long pulls once you let out out of the throttle it would sould like a slow lazy blow across the top of the beer bottle. I even had to put my beer down once to make sure it wasn't just me - Just kidding - I too thought it was just a minor inconvenience or irritant, but as time passed, it became more consistant and perhaps the sound even became stronger, with more force. One day I noticed a significant drop in coolant level (approx 1 inch loss from the degas bottle). There was no puke, no excess white smoke (evaporation) no coolant in oil or vice versa???? Alakazam, there it was.....gone. I booked the truck in and Topped up the coolant to the recommended level and the level remained constant for a week untill I was able to get the truck in. Then came the diagnosis....1 head warpped out of spec (re&re), 1 set of head gaskets (re&re), miscellenious gaskets and orings were also (re&re). Make sure that they also replace the lid on the degas bottle with the updated lid. Also note that I was in the stock setting when all of this occurred.

They said I was very lucky that there wasn'y any signs of coolant in my intake or it would have resulted in new pistions and injectors. If ya got excess white smoke (vapours) do not hesitate to get it in to the dealer. Get it towed or you could be in the shop for a long time getting a rebuild.

The head replacement resulted in a follow up visit due to a no start when warm and extended crank when cold condition (leaking HPOP fitting) could have been dealt with at the same time as the head gaskets. Here is the TSB you need. Tell them that you had experienced these conditions and ask that they perform the TSB while they are in there.

TSB 06-17-6 HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM DIAGNOSTICS - 6.0L Publication Date: August 15, 2006

https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/full...x.php?p=by_tsb

My visit for the HPOP fitting will now be followed by another visit because of a CEL DTC P0299 low boost condition, VGT valve or could be EBP (exhaust back pressure) sensor? The truck also came out of teh shop with the ABS light on and my ABS are not working correctly. Next visit scheduled for Feb 9th.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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Strange *Update*

Ive been so use to that turbo fart, that I tried to listen to it, and noticed it wasnt there anymore,?? Not the last week or so, cant get the truck to make the noise???

Im wondering if its due to the turbo hose replaced last week due to a small oil leak I noticed????

Just thought id update the thread with the new info....
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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my noise has seemed to go down now that it is not as cold outside. when i bring it back to ford for the window tsb i am going to have them perform the pressure test tsb. thank you.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Could be some of the increase turbo whine could be due to the cooler (more dense) air increasing the sound?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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i dont beleive so. lots of my buddies trucks dont do this same year some eirlier years
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Went to ford for a couple of things one being this noise. I had them do a degas pressure test and check the oil and egr cooler. Sent it in Morning Monday and I had to call them today to see how it is. They said they are replacing the egr cooler and it will be done tomorrow. Will let you guys know if this solves my problem.
 
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