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From: Grand Lake, La.
Originally Posted by robs01f250
i have an 01 f250 7.3 psd 6 speed and i have a bully dog power pup programmer and the muffler cut off. Just curious if there is anything else that i can do like exhaust or intake that would make my truck faster and blow more smoke. If so what kind.
Anyway we are not about to settle anything like this. So, have a good evening.
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From: Surrey, BC
Originally Posted by Izzy351
...then there are some folks that just want to be able to soot the occasional @$$clown on the roads, not to "look cool". Not sure who THAT would be... 
In all serisousness, I know what you're getting at Dave, but the occasional soot cloud isn't "destroying the environment for our children and 'gran children'". Like you said, "Relax guys, its just a discussion and everyone is entitled to their opinion." Besides, I'm a HUGE supporter of recycling -- I pour my used oil back in the ground here in Texas, putting it right back where it came from.
In all serisousness, I know what you're getting at Dave, but the occasional soot cloud isn't "destroying the environment for our children and 'gran children'". Like you said, "Relax guys, its just a discussion and everyone is entitled to their opinion." Besides, I'm a HUGE supporter of recycling -- I pour my used oil back in the ground here in Texas, putting it right back where it came from.
In all seriousness, I disagree, and I am entitled to that, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem and our childrens, children will definitly be effected, who are ya kidding here? I agree the diesel soot is not all the problem but it is a contributing factor.
I am sure you are kidding about dumping your oil back into the ground where it came from, or at least I hope your are? Up here in Canada we follow government guide lines to to insure proper disposal of waste materials, maybe this is why California buys there water from us LOL.
Last edited by dave at BD Power; Oct 23, 2007 at 04:51 PM.
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Originally Posted by miller_feed
Dave, I think when someone says they want their truck to be faster with more smoke, I take it he wants power.
Anyway we are not about to settle anything like this. So, have a good evening.
Anyway we are not about to settle anything like this. So, have a good evening.
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man i thought that was the goal of all diesel guys was to make as much black smoke as possible. if i was going to switch from v10 to diesel the smoke would be the reason, through some stacks on it and watch it cloud the atmosphere. now thats cool, i have seen guys poor motor oil in there stakes to make smoke before up at silver lake. ULSD is ma be better for the envorment and more emission regulations but then be ready to pay more for gas and get less gas millage.
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
The only smoke I get from my diesel is from my rear tires.... LOL
Figures, I buy a diesel so I could smoke cloud the street and end up with a truck that barely puts smoke out WOT.. just had to resort to the tires..
Figures, I buy a diesel so I could smoke cloud the street and end up with a truck that barely puts smoke out WOT.. just had to resort to the tires..
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Thanks for the postive words, I realize that I am being poked at but I enjoy it, it gives me a reason to voice my opinion. Nothing better on a slow day than a good ole debate about black smoke
"After calling BullyDog and asking for an updated version/ newer (Read: more advanced) tune for my truck I was told that they consider the 7.3 a dead technology."
I can not believe they told you that the 7.3L is dead technology, there is probably more 7.3L's on the road right now than 5.9 and 6.5's combined! I will admit new 7.3 products got pushed back due to all the new motors needing new products but it has not been forgotten about!
We just had a meeting yesterday regarding the design of a new intercooler we are looking at designing for the 7.3L's. It would be similar to the Extruded Fin and Tube design we currently sell for the 94-07 Dodge Ram 5.9L.
Perhaps I can get some feedback from all of you on what kind of market there is for a state of the art intercooler for the 7.3L's.
Oh ya, our extruded fin and tube designed intercoolers offer less boost loss than the OEM brand and the other after-market manufactures old stuffed fin and tube technology. My point here is more boost equals less black smoke muhaahaaa
I am off for the night, see you all in the AM, don't let the thread die while I am sleeping.
"After calling BullyDog and asking for an updated version/ newer (Read: more advanced) tune for my truck I was told that they consider the 7.3 a dead technology."
I can not believe they told you that the 7.3L is dead technology, there is probably more 7.3L's on the road right now than 5.9 and 6.5's combined! I will admit new 7.3 products got pushed back due to all the new motors needing new products but it has not been forgotten about!
We just had a meeting yesterday regarding the design of a new intercooler we are looking at designing for the 7.3L's. It would be similar to the Extruded Fin and Tube design we currently sell for the 94-07 Dodge Ram 5.9L.
Perhaps I can get some feedback from all of you on what kind of market there is for a state of the art intercooler for the 7.3L's.
Oh ya, our extruded fin and tube designed intercoolers offer less boost loss than the OEM brand and the other after-market manufactures old stuffed fin and tube technology. My point here is more boost equals less black smoke muhaahaaa
I am off for the night, see you all in the AM, don't let the thread die while I am sleeping.
Last edited by dave at BD Power; Oct 23, 2007 at 06:28 PM.
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Originally Posted by dave at BD Power
Like I said, if its not a looking cool thing, it must be a compensation thing, what else could it be?
Originally Posted by dave at BD Power
In all seriousness, I disagree, and I am entitled to that, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem and our childrens, children will definitly be effected, who are ya kidding here? I agree the diesel soot is not all the problem but it is a contributing factor.
Originally Posted by dave at BD Power
I am sure you are kidding about dumping your oil back into the ground where it came from, or at least I hope your are? Up here in Canada we follow government guide lines to to insure proper disposal of waste materials, maybe this is why California buys there water from us LOL.
I'm pretty much giving you a hard time for no particular reason, and I know that. No hard feelings, really. But one last point -- Cali buys water from ANYONE!! They need it pretty badly right now... 
Last edited by Izzy351; Oct 23, 2007 at 08:20 PM.
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From: hillsborough nj
i'm all for some smoke at launch (it looks REALLY cool) but once the turbo spools up i want just a haze, if you're throwing the same amount of fuel at it with less smoke, that's obviously more power.. but not smoke is too much air... a haze is just perfect
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From: Rio Rico, AZ.
For the record, I'm on Dave's side of the fence. I like power, but hate a big sooty cloud of smoke to make it. It's the reason that I don't run a tune any higher than Tow/Haul, the higher ones belch a big cloud.
It's VERY easy to program the ECU to follow boost and add fuel when appropriate.
It's VERY easy to program the ECU to follow boost and add fuel when appropriate.
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From: Dallas-Ft. Worth
Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
For the record, I'm on Dave's side of the fence. I like power, but hate a big sooty cloud of smoke to make it. It's the reason that I don't run a tune any higher than Tow/Haul, the higher ones belch a big cloud.
It's VERY easy to program the ECU to follow boost and add fuel when appropriate.
It's VERY easy to program the ECU to follow boost and add fuel when appropriate.
"It's a diesel thing -- apparently, some don't understand".
(Sorry, I had to)
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From: Millbrook Alabama
Originally Posted by dave at BD Power
Thanks for the postive words, I realize that I am being poked at but I enjoy it, it gives me a reason to voice my opinion. Nothing better on a slow day than a good ole debate about black smoke
"After calling BullyDog and asking for an updated version/ newer (Read: more advanced) tune for my truck I was told that they consider the 7.3 a dead technology."
I can not believe they told you that the 7.3L is dead technology, there is probably more 7.3L's on the road right now than 5.9 and 6.5's combined! I will admit new 7.3 products got pushed back due to all the new motors needing new products but it has not been forgotten about!
We just had a meeting yesterday regarding the design of a new intercooler we are looking at designing for the 7.3L's. It would be similar to the Extruded Fin and Tube design we currently sell for the 94-07 Dodge Ram 5.9L.
Perhaps I can get some feedback from all of you on what kind of market there is for a state of the art intercooler for the 7.3L's.
Oh ya, our extruded fin and tube designed intercoolers offer less boost loss than the OEM brand and the other after-market manufactures old stuffed fin and tube technology. My point here is more boost equals less black smoke muhaahaaa
I am off for the night, see you all in the AM, don't let the thread die while I am sleeping.
"After calling BullyDog and asking for an updated version/ newer (Read: more advanced) tune for my truck I was told that they consider the 7.3 a dead technology."
I can not believe they told you that the 7.3L is dead technology, there is probably more 7.3L's on the road right now than 5.9 and 6.5's combined! I will admit new 7.3 products got pushed back due to all the new motors needing new products but it has not been forgotten about!
We just had a meeting yesterday regarding the design of a new intercooler we are looking at designing for the 7.3L's. It would be similar to the Extruded Fin and Tube design we currently sell for the 94-07 Dodge Ram 5.9L.
Perhaps I can get some feedback from all of you on what kind of market there is for a state of the art intercooler for the 7.3L's.
Oh ya, our extruded fin and tube designed intercoolers offer less boost loss than the OEM brand and the other after-market manufactures old stuffed fin and tube technology. My point here is more boost equals less black smoke muhaahaaa
I am off for the night, see you all in the AM, don't let the thread die while I am sleeping.
Heck yeah I am interested (as long as we are talking, lets keep it reasonably priced) I am all about more boost. I would have gone with a Spearco, or big DIIC(no, Joe, that was not a compensation reference to anything
) a long time ago except for the fact that its 1200 bucks. I have looked at the 6.0 coolers, but I do not like the fact that the end caps are plastic. thats just a hang up of mine. I blew two plastic sided radiators in a 4.0 Jeep that I had and just am not that keen on them. Anyhoo, although I have 250K on my truck, I am building for the future. Goal is about 400HP that can tow reliably.along with all the normal mods(guages,intake,exhaust,HPX line, fuel bowl delete,Fass system(soon to be installed)in tank mods, etc...) I have a DP tuner that will be here in a couple of weeks, and am planning on future mods of big oil and larger injectors and a better flowing turbo. when I jump up to the BO, INJ, and turbo I will need a better flowing IC.
whatcha got...
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Originally Posted by bdrummonds
Dave,
Heck yeah I am interested (as long as we are talking, lets keep it reasonably priced) I am all about more boost. I would have gone with a Spearco, or big DIIC(no, Joe, that was not a compensation reference to anything )... ///SNIP///
Heck yeah I am interested (as long as we are talking, lets keep it reasonably priced) I am all about more boost. I would have gone with a Spearco, or big DIIC(no, Joe, that was not a compensation reference to anything
)... ///SNIP///And don't worry -- I'm sure the thread will be just fine tomorrow morning. I don't plan on babysitting it all night either.
