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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Bad Noises On Cold Start Up

Everytime I start my truck on cold start either in the morning or at night it has a bad rapping noise. I was told it might be the oil pump and by the sounds of it it already did its damage. I hooked it up to a computer and pulled 3 codes the only on ei remember is misfire on cylinder 1. but i know thats the coil pack for the rough idle. here is a video of the sound it makes. but the noise you are about to hear is minor to what it has done 2 days ago and this morning. http://s178.photobucket.com/albums/w...t=000_1105.flv
 
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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i forgot a few things in it. the truck also misses really bad. shakes bad. and someone else thought the lifters were making the noise. I changed the oil today and put dino oil in it 10w-30 for engines with 70,000 miles. First itwas the four wheel drive whats next anything else instore i should know lol.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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Each of my trucks make a noise at start up like that every now and then, but not every time. Except for the 2001 SD but that is a whole different story, it has 220,000 miles and has been used very hard with a few engines mods added, it is about to blow up and is not holding oil pressuer at idle and sounds like a PSD.

Don't over react yet! Get the codes fiqured out and that may tell you something. A bad COP will make it do funny things. It does stop making noise when the oil pressure gets up. Add a real oil pressure guage to get some real numbers instead of the factory dail. You can drop the oil pan and check to see if the oil pickup spout is getting clogged. But don't ignore it now, if it is haviing a oiling problem and you find it now it may save you a motor later.

I am going to try my best to finish my 5.4 off at the next Mud Bog on the 15th. It deserves to go out in a blaze of glory, not lock up going down the interstate!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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Here are the codes what do you think?

P0301 -- cylinder 1 Misfire detected
P0316 -- Misfire detected on start up ( 1st 1000 revolutions )
P1132 -- Lack of H02S11 switches (sensor indicates rich) see also P2196

P2196 O2 sensor signal stuck rich (bank 1 sensor 1)
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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Sounds like if you change that COP on cylinder 1 your problem is solved.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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thanks bro
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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well i willknow if it worked tomarrow because i just bought a cop for $37.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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still makes the noise. but not as bad. and it clears up much faster. and it improved my gas milage too.
 
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Are you getting any more codes?
 
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Well your using the wrong weight oil ! 10w-30 is not recomended.5w20 or 5w30
Hopefully you haven't been using that weight oil all along.
What brand filter are you using some aftermarket filters have been known to have bad drain back valves.
Yes you may have a bad oil pump,chk the psi with a mechanical guage and see what it is at idle cold an hot
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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well someone told me on another thread to use 10w-30 for a bad burning oil problem. and so far it works good lol.
 
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I have 10w-30 in one of my 5.4L for 220,000 miles and it is just now complaining. But my answer to that is I don't think the oil finally hurt the engine, I think removing the rev limiter and using it for mud bogs did the trick. 10w-30 is not going to hurt 5.4L.

Now the brand of oil used may make a difference in the amount of slug, etc. I would get a mechanical oil pressure gauge added and see what it tells you. May need to clean your pickup screen. I will never use pennzioil again because of the slug buildup I have seen it do in engines.
 
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