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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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I'm going to install a by-pass filter(oil-rig). It says that I need to tap in to the oil preasure. I know there are a few spots to go from, but what spots are you guys using. I know that TJ has a by-pass. I 'm sure there are others too so please help me out and let me the best place to go for the preasure side and a return line would be great. Thanks
 
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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One other thing I didn't mention. Where are you mounting the by-pass itself? I assume that most off you are putting it somewhere on the frame. I just wondering how you did that. Did you drill new hole or what?
 
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Casey, this thread is from blackcowboss' install with pictures of the best place to tap into the pressure and return. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...nz-filter.html

Also here is photos on TJ's site of his install. http://good-times.webshots.com/album/559095173QctrNV

They mounted theirs to the cross member. I made a U bracket and used bolt holes already in the frame to mount mine. I can take some pictures is you want, just let me know.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Thanks Plowhand. Would you know the size of connections to the those two ports. I figured that thats where everyone would be putting the connections. I also didn't realize that my filter is twice the size. I'm going to have to come up with a different spot. I think mine would hang to low right there. It has to be twice the size of the frantz.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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If I remember correctly the fittings on the truck are 1/8" NPT for the pressure side (front of filter, 11mm hex head) and 3/8" NPT for the return side (rear of filter, 5/16" square drive).
 
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by plowhand
If I remember correctly the fittings on the truck are 1/8" NPT for the pressure side (front of filter, 11mm hex head) and 3/8" NPT for the return side (rear of filter, 5/16" square drive).
yup yup, I put a NPT to JIC for ease of hose install
 
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Thanks for the backup and confirming, boss.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:34 AM
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Another question about the by-pass. This set up that I have has a heating element to it for the oil to heat up before it returns to the motor. Do I need that hooked up for my truck. I dont think I understand the logic behind it. What do you guys think?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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Is the heating element 110v AC or 12v DC? If it's AC, I would guess that it's to be used like a block heater, but I don't know why you would need to heat the oil all the time if it's 12v DC. What does the manufacturer say about it?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Sorry Casey some how I missed this thread until now. Plowhand has you in good shape though. What bypass are you using? I would guess the heater is for flashing moisture off the oil. It would be most helpful if you only do short trips. if you drive long distances then it may not be needed.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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The system is from Oil Rig. It is actually for the big rigs but can be used on our trucks. The heating element is 12v DC, and I think you are right TJ. I have been doing some reading and I have found that it is for the moisture and gas in the oil. I guess it is suppose to some how remove all that out of the oil. Sounds like it would be a good idea to hook up then. It says to just hook up to any power that comes on with the key so it will be pretty easy.


Another question Where did you guys pick those fittings up to change the NPT to JIC? Would Summit carry those?

What dose the JIC stand for?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Make sure if your running the by-pass filter you get your oil analyzed frrequently.

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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not sure what JIC stands for. Its a hydraulic fitting. I just got the fittings at Napa but you won't have that luxury. A parts store there may have them but find standard pipe thread may be hard. also try mcmaster-carr online. they would probably have them.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Maybe this will really confuse you: JIC (Joint Industrial Council) fittings work with standard straight threads that when fully engaged, seat off on the 37 degree angles to form a seal (used on the ends of hydrualic hoses). The fitting sizes are derived from the nominal O. D. of the pipe, and are refered to by a number representing 1/16ths of an inch. For example, a 37 degree JIC fitting for 1/4" OD pipe, would be called a -4 (as 4*1/16" = 1/4") The actual thread sizes, however, do not correlate with the pipe O. D. Fun stuff, isn't it?

37 degree flare JIC (SAE J514): (See attached photo's)


<TABLE height=972 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD height=52>37 degree flare JIC Swivel:</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=2 height=151>The female fittings for the above male fittings, they feature a swiveling nut that allows the fitting to spin while tightening, allowing whatever they are attached to to remain fixed. It is common to see these fittings at the end of a stainless steel braided teflon hose. These fittings often will not be referred to by their pipe OD, but rather by the thread size. For example; a -4AN JIC swivel fitting may be referred to as a 7/16"-20.


Find these hose assemblies at McMaster Carr, page 204.


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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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Thanks guys that was a great explanation. I still have a lot of work to do to figure this so I order the right hoses. I'm used to the AN and the MS fittings the Air force uses but I have never heard about the JIC fitting. Looks like I have some research to do. I have to find the adapter and a place to make the hoses for me. Thanks again
 
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